Why did my Ironworks stop being built?

[Willem]

I had it going in one of my cities when all of a sudden I got the message that I could no longer build it and got some gold for the work that had been done. It is a National Wonder isn't it? The only thing I can think of is that there is some sort of time frame that you need to build it in, but I haven't seen that explained anywhere.

[GeoModder]

Do you have this on save? Is it repeatable?

Oh, all your Iron and/or Coal mines weren't destroyed by some rogue units, didn't they?

[Willem]

No the Iron was still there, that was the first thing I checked. I'm wondering if mabye there's a mistake and the game is reading the Ironworks as a World Wonder instead. And no I don't have it on save. I'll be sure to keep one if it happens again.

[Blake]

Does the Ironworks have a pre-req?

I know this happened to me with the National Epic.

I was building a library in the city, I wanted the national epic so I added it to the queue. A couple turns later I got a Great Engineer, and decided to rush the NE with him. So I removed the library from the queue and rushed the NE.
Next turn, no National Epic, I got a refund instead.

What had happened is that the National Epic requires the Library as a pre-req, but I removed that from the front of the queue. The game should have then removed the National Epic too, but it didn't (bug).

[Enigma_Nova]

It did remove the national epic. You got gold for it, didn't you?

[Willem]

Originally posted by Enigma_Nova
It did remove the national epic. You got gold for it, didn't you?

Yes I did. It acted just like a World Wonder when someone beats you to it. I was maybe half way finished building it when it suddenly wasn't allowed anymore and I recieved a bunch of gold for it. I thought maybe it actually was a World Wonder, but in the manual it's listed as a National, and one of the game tips mentions that as well.

[Dis]

I lost a city (my trade network was not disconnected though), and then suddenly I couldn't build globe theatre and forbidden palace.

WTF!!

I'm tired of this buggy game. I'm also tired of losing all the time. I think my civ4 days are over.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Dis
I'm also tired of losing all the time.

I like the idea that I have to work for a win, it provides me with a challenge. Maybe you should try different tactics.

[Blake]

Originally posted by Enigma_Nova
It did remove the national epic. You got gold for it, didn't you?

bad nitpicking troll.

What had happened is that the National Epic requires the Library as a pre-req, but I removed that from the front of the queue. The game should have then removed the National Epic too, but it didn't (bug).

Emphasis added.
It should have remove the NE the moment it became an invalid build (ie as I removed the library), instead it kept it until the start of the next turn, giving me the oppurtunity to burn the Great Engineer on it.

I lost a city (my trade network was not disconnected though), and then suddenly I couldn't build globe theatre and forbidden palace.

Well this would make sense if you had the minimum number of theatres/courthouses, and the lost city had one of each, bumping you to below minimum...

[pedrojedi]

Originally posted by Dis
I lost a city (my trade network was not disconnected though), and then suddenly I couldn't build globe theatre and forbidden palace.

WTF!!

I'm tired of this buggy game. I'm also tired of losing all the time. I think my civ4 days are over.

Got less than 6 cities then...?

[Enigma_Nova]

Originally posted by Blake
bad nitpicking troll.

No, I'm a good nitpicking troll.

It should have remove the NE the moment it became an invalid build (ie as I removed the library), instead it kept it until the start of the next turn, giving me the oppurtunity to burn the Great Engineer on it.

It's a bug that should be updated. In the meantime, either accept your Great Merchineer or reload and retry.

[Dis]

Originally posted by pedrojedi


Got less than 6 cities then...?

I might have less than 6 on the continent (but I have 2 island cities), so I don't think that's it.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Blake


bad nitpicking troll.



Emphasis added.
It should have remove the NE the moment it became an invalid build (ie as I removed the library), instead it kept it until the start of the next turn, giving me the oppurtunity to burn the Great Engineer on it.


Well this would make sense if you had the minimum number of theatres/courthouses, and the lost city had one of each, bumping you to below minimum...

maybe. What is the minimum number of theatres/courthouses?

I've never had this happen before. But perhaps I have not lost a city when building national wonders.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Willem


I like the idea that I have to work for a win, it provides me with a challenge. Maybe you should try different tactics.

To each his own I guess.

But I've lost 3 games in a row. Losing is not fun. If it was, I'd be doing real life stuff. But since I'm a loser in real life, I prefer to play a game where I can actually win.

[Blake]

It's a bug that should be updated. In the meantime, either accept your Great Merchineer or reload and retry.

I bet the Great Engineer threw a hissy-fit after the city council weaners came up and said the just-completed National Epic had to be torn down for some technical non-compliance.

PS. I reloaded. ofcourse I reloaded. If I hadn't reloaded I wouldn't have located the source of the problem and would have had to make a "WTF?" post on poly (and neglect to include a save/previous autosave because everyone loves a good mystery) .