Patch v152 out

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Majstor
everything is faster for sure
but i have a very strange problem with this patch

the first civilization that I have met was barbarian (??), and their leader was having a T-shirt with 'Firaxis' on it )

but the real problem is that whenever I reject his offer he is turning again and again after each turn, offering me the same thing until I accept. It is very annoying, what should I do??

A superb entrance.

[The Rusty Gamer]

Hmmm...I have to say I think swiss42 is having us on. There's something a little too silly and unprofessional about his posts.

[Nikolai]

Swiss42? There's no swiss42 here?

[DrSpike]

I am also a little confused.

[Zoid]

Rusty must´ve forgot what he named his DL

[Nikolai]

Now that I think of it, I seem to remember a member with that nick in a discussion here on the site someplace, but it was not in this thread at least.

[Harrier UK]

Originally posted by Adagio


I've never seen the barbarians as a civ in the game, but their leader is Sid Meier

They can and do either found or capture cities.

a new player may think that that is a civilization.

[Nikolai]

It actually is. The Barbs are made just as a normal civ, only it has been stripped for things like diplomacy and such. They can infact build wonders for example. And you can play them if you mod the game. Iæve never done it though.

[Adagio]

Originally posted by Harrier UK
They can and do either found or capture cities.

a new player may think that that is a civilization.

That I have seen, but I have never actually seen their leader

[player1]

Originally posted by Nikolai
It actually is. The Barbs are made just as a normal civ, only it has been stripped for things like diplomacy and such. They can infact build wonders for example. And you can play them if you mod the game. Iæve never done it though.

Actually they are limited in type of units, buildings and wonders they can build.


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					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_CHRISTIAN_CATHEDRAL
					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_CHRISTIAN_MONASTERY
					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_CHRISTIAN_SHRINE
					NONE
				
				
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					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_ISLAMIC_CATHEDRAL
					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_ISLAMIC_MONASTERY
					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_ISLAMIC_SHRINE
					NONE
				
				
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					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_HINDU_CATHEDRAL
					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_HINDU_MONASTERY
					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_HINDU_SHRINE
					NONE
				
				
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					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_BUDDHIST_CATHEDRAL
					NONE
				
				
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					BUILDINGCLASS_BUDDHIST_SHRINE
					NONE
				
				
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					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_CONFUCIAN_CATHEDRAL
					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_CONFUCIAN_MONASTERY
					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_CONFUCIAN_SHRINE
					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_TAOIST_TEMPLE
					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_TAOIST_CATHEDRAL
					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_TAOIST_MONASTERY
					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_TAOIST_SHRINE
					NONE
				
				
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					NONE
				
				
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					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_GLOBE_THEATRE
					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_HERMITAGE
					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_OXFORD_UNIVERSITY
					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_WALL_STREET
					NONE
				
				
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					NONE
				
				
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					NONE
				
				
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					NONE
				
				
					BUILDINGCLASS_TAJ_MAHAL
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[Robert]

Originally posted by Nikolai
It actually is. The Barbs are made just as a normal civ, only it has been stripped for things like diplomacy and such. They can infact build wonders for example. And you can play them if you mod the game. Iæve never done it though.

It was already possible to play as the barbarian in civ1
A little bit of save-game hacking normally did it

[Nikolai]

It was? What I've missed in my civving life...

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Adagio


That I have seen, but I have never actually seen their leader

He stays out of sight, masterminding the barb takeover of the world. Badly.

[gdijedi7]

Well, Barbarians never take over the world when I'm around.

I have noticed that it is more difficult to take Barbarian cities in Civ4 than it was before. I shudder to think of what would happen if they were allowed to build a Mechagodzilla...

[gdijedi7]

And by the way, Spike,

I don't want to see "wonder girl."