Based On What We Know: Rate Civ 4

[Adagio]

Just ignore Boris next time he starts to talk about it

[alva]

Anyone notice their posts are getting bigger and bigger? Not sure what that means...just noticing it. :

[Adagio]

I wonder if there's actually anything written there or just some random letters put together to make it look like they're actually arguing? I haven't read any of their long posts for a long time, I'm afraid I'll fall asleep before I finish reading...

[Freddz]

Originally posted by The_Aussie_Lurker
Oh, for the LOVE of PETE!!!! Seriously guys, can you PLEASE stop with this pointless bickering. Bringing up stuff from almost three years ago is just downright childish-I admit-but this has just gotten beyond a JOKE!!! I confess that I once gave up on Apolyton completely, largely due to the flame wars which were erupting around the time Civ3 was released. I certainly don't want to have to do the same this time around! Could you both just agree to disagree and move on? If you want to go further, by all means do so, but PRIVATELY!!! I don't know about anyone else, but I want to have a calm, rational and intelligent discussion about WHY people have voted the way they have in the polls. Is that too much to ask?

Yours,
Aussie_Lurker.

Put them both on ignore

[DrSpike]

I'm cautiously optimistic, but the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. I hope to be stuffing my face soon.

[Nikolai]

Aussie_Lurker

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Adagio
I wonder if there's actually anything written there or just some random letters put together to make it look like they're actually arguing? I haven't read any of their long posts for a long time, I'm afraid I'll fall asleep before I finish reading...

I almost fell asleep writing the last one, myself.

Ah, this is what the OT has done to us...made us stubborn fools.

Sir Ralph, we're arguing past each other a lot. And I see you've understood a lot of why I responded as I did based on the use of terminology. You admit to using hyperbole, and by implication being melodramatic at first (which was all I initially pointed out). I hope you realize that using such inflated language is inevitably going to raise some hackles and provoke impassioned responses. In a medium where words alone are the means of communication, it's important to choose them carefully.

So let's leave it at this: I fully accept your right to dislike a feature, even if you haven't played the game yet, so long as you accept the right of others to try to convince you otherwise--briefly. I'll point out that we long ago stopped arguing about the game feature, however, and have since been arguing about whether it's ok to try to convince someone from the get-go. I notice a lot of the threads in the argument got very confused because of this, and accept partial responsibility for that and not keeping the focus.

Beyond that, I can drop the reason/emotion argument (you're still wrong ), but there's two things I won't let go by:

No, not even American, and proud of it. Are you Boris Godunov

I am neither proud or ashamed to be an American, I simply am one. I don't see why anyone but chauvinists should feel pride in their national origin, or criticize others for theirs, since it's something that's beyond our control. I might as well be proud to have blue eyes.

I wasn't right, as I didn't argue with you. You called it religious, I said politely that I disagree, you laughed and wrote something about monks getting drunk every night and singing silly songs.

Curious how your memory of this seems to have expanded since brining it up (first saying you didn't argue it then, but now saying you did...). But I don't have any recollection of this, and know I would never have asserted it was religious. I may have stated that it was a collection of poems compiled by monks, which you mistook to mean it was religious in nature, but that's all I can fathom.

And I can still find plenty of threads in the archives about classical music. They remain based on length.

So I'll let it rest there, unless you want to accuse me of saying Beethoven's 6th was a depiction of a heroin-induced hallucination about cartoon centaurs, or Stravinksy's Rite of Spring was a ballet about dinosaurs roaming the earth.

And my apologies to everyone else for the diatribes.

[Freddz]

Let's group hug.

[Boris Godunov]

Ok, but my hands have been known to wander.

[Freddz]

[sabrewolf]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Ah, this is what the OT has done to us...made us stubborn fools.

that's why i've been saying over the years: kill OT

[Dinner]

Originally posted by asleepathewheel

Cite?

Courtesy of Chris the former mod at CFc and owner of FFZ. His politics leave much to be desired but he's normally pretty update on details like this.

It now seems Firaxis changed their mind about that and have sent out at least some pre-public release final versions to be reviewed. I'm glad they changed their minds.

[Addled Platypus]

all right, clearly the majority like the game

I guess we are all dysfunctional, Right yin26

[Lambiorix_be]

I voted for option 2. The only reason that i did not vote for option 1 is because of nuclear weapons feature...

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Platypus Rex
all right, clearly the majority like the game

I guess we are all dysfunctional, Right yin26

Hey! Yin´s with us now. The biggest opponent at the moment seems to be Sir Ralph.