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  • #16
    People who post like the OP is the ones who have the highest chance of ending up on someones ignore list... I didn't even read the OP...
    This space is empty... or is it?

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      • #18
        Adagio: What's an OP?
        Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.-Isaiah 41:10
        I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made - Psalms 139.14a
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        • #19
          Opening post.

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          • #20
            echty, ni zhende shi zhongguo ren ma ?
            M. le Comte

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            • #21
              Oh God, don't start posting in Chinese again...
              Speaking of Erith:

              "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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              • #22
                zhende? err... bu shi zhongguo ren, shi deguo ren. PH de zhidao hen xiao.

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                • #23
                  Wo shi Internet ren, bu shi zhonguo ren. Bleh

                  echty, ni zhende shi zhongguo ren ma ?
                  Xiuxie itchy sctatchy yi. Nimen xiuxie hanguo ma?


                  Go GalCiv, go! Go Society, go!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Verenti
                    Uh, Um... This topic got me looking at the tech tree again and ... can anyone look double check this... but is Mount Rushmore a wonder under ... Fascism?
                    Well it's a bit like the UN being buildable (under previous Civs) after the invention of communism - it does not say that the UN is a "communist" institution, just that appearance of communism denotes the point in time and development of political thought, that is necessary for the appearance of the UN.

                    Besides, building giant statues, sculptures and monuments of national leaders in modern day is more appropriate for fascisms rather than liberal democracy, on average.
                    The problem with leadership is inevitably: Who will play God?
                    - Frank Herbert

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                    • #25
                      Between 1927 and October 31, 1941, Gutzon Borglum and 400 workers sculpted the 60 foot (18 m) colossal busts of Presidents George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Theodore Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln, to represent the first 150 years of American history.
                      Well, judging by Wikipedia, we see that the time at which Mount Rushmore was built does coincide with the rise of Fascism in Europe-which might explain its placing at this point in the tech tree. Alternatively, though, it could be placed back during Nationalism-given that this is what Mount Rushmore sort of represents.

                      Yours,
                      Aussie_Lurker.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Martinus
                        (...) just that appearance of communism denotes the point in time and development of political thought, that is necessary for the appearance of the UN.

                        Besides, building giant statues, sculptures and monuments of national leaders in modern day is more appropriate for fascisms rather than liberal democracy, on average.
                        Very well said Martinus. I would only correct a bit you last sentence, because other different gov form can prefer to indulge in "leader veneration": e.g. think about Stalin, Lenin, Mao and Castro.

                        I'm afraid to see more and more often also that democracy try to give away easy prize (dedicating naming of streets, ships, buildings, etc.) to still alive or just dead people. I think real greatness of a person should be proven standing the test of time for at least 20 - 30 years, before dedicating anything more than a sign on a garden...
                        "We are reducing all the complexity of billions of people over 6000 years into a Civ box. Let me say: That's not only a PkZip effort....it's a real 'picture to Jpeg heavy loss in translation' kind of thing."
                        - Admiral Naismith

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                        • #27
                          back on topic:
                          if the top-right icon is pre-requesites and the arrows are either-or pre-reqs, what is with situations like "metal casting" which has a pottery icon and an arrow from bronze working??
                          - Artificial Intelligence usually beats real stupidity
                          - Atheism is a nonprophet organization.

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                          • #28
                            It needs both techs then. Only if another arrow would have pointed to the tech there would be an OR choice between bronze working and this hypothetical second tech.
                            He who knows others is wise.
                            He who knows himself is enlightened.
                            -- Lao Tsu

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                            • #29
                              but then why display it like this? why not use different arrow colours or dashed lines for optional?

                              at least 2 mandatory prereqs should be displayed the same (like flight for instance)
                              - Artificial Intelligence usually beats real stupidity
                              - Atheism is a nonprophet organization.

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                              • #30
                                I guess "cluttering" has something to do with it.
                                He who knows others is wise.
                                He who knows himself is enlightened.
                                -- Lao Tsu

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