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Who voted for Nicholas?
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Boris Godunov, of course.
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Stalin.
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Might I ask why?Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Boris Godunov, of course.
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It's not just a pretty name.Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Might I ask why?
That Boris was one of the greatest of the Russian tsars there can be no doubt.
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I don't know why everyone keeps saying Ivan IV. Why? It's such a "Russian Barbarian" stereotype, and to me is not indicative of Russia in the least. So St. Basil's was built under his rule and he was violent. Meh.
I mean, come on. I see Alexander I, Kruschev, Gorbachev, and even Elizaveta as being more Civ-worthy than Ivan Groznii.Comment
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Oh, I thought you were responding to my post, saying that you were the one who voted for Nicholas II.Originally posted by Boris Godunov
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Well, he was violent. Which is why he's a nice contrast to the builder Peter Velikiy or EkaterinaOriginally posted by Novaya Havoc
I don't know why everyone keeps saying Ivan IV. Why? It's such a "Russian Barbarian" stereotype, and to me is not indicative of Russia in the least. So St. Basil's was built under his rule and he was violent. Meh.
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Oh, and I love it when people try to get Russian usernames and do it wrong
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No kidding. If the goal is to have famous, recognizable leaders for civs, and also to have leaders with different, possibly contrasting personalities, Ivan the Terrible is an ideal choice as an antihero to Peter or Catherine. Stalin is not going to happen. Lenin could, but Peter is the most favored choice, at least by Apolytoners.Originally posted by Solver
Well, he was violent. Which is why he's a nice contrast to the builder Peter Velikiy or Ekaterina.
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:P Novaya was intentional. Sounded better than "Novii," even if grammatically incorrect.Originally posted by Solver
Oh, and I love it when people try to get Russian usernames and do it wrong.
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Like Stalin?Originally posted by Novaya Havoc
It's such a "Russian Barbarian" stereotype, and to me is not indicative of Russia in the least.
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Because you should write it like Noviy, Novyj or Novij instead of Novii which is a really weird way to transliterateOriginally posted by Novaya Havoc
:P Novaya was intentional. Sounded better than "Novii," even if grammatically incorrect.
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Peter I and Yosif Stalin - they both made Russia (USSR) "jump" in power.
(no others from that list achieved such an improvement in Russia's relative power than those two)
EDIT: and they're also well recognisable-- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
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Ivan the Terrible did also increase Russian power. Not in the same way as Peter, but he did.
Stalin didn't increase USSR's power. Well, the military power skyrocketed, of course, but the Soviet economics weren't exactly good at that time.
Maybe we can mod in Kalvītis as the Russian leader.
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He did, but at less extent definitely and the effect of his rule was felt on less areas of Russia's life.Ivan the Terrible did also increase Russian power. Not in the same way as Peter, but he did.
Peter I wanted (but did not succeed) to change Russia into Western-type country. His reforms and efforts stretched far more than those of any of other tsars.
Well, okay I probably gave a too unclear argument for this.Stalin didn't increase USSR's power. Well, the military power skyrocketed, of course, but the Soviet economics weren't exactly good at that time.
Stalin practically made USSR as it was seen after that almost up till "perestroika".
Before him USSR was more democratical, less totalitarian etc. etc.
He practically made a system which could hold all the wast empire together and that was his main achievement.
It is of course arguable, but it was he who made USSR stand against USA as the opposing superpower.
He was quite a strong person himself (at least till he get up to the zenith of his power), probably the nemesis of Churchill in his determination.
He better be named Ruksîtis or Piggy for the english speaking, it will be more recognisable..Maybe we can mod in Kalvîtis as the Russian leader
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