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Who should the leader of the Russian Civ be? Please pick two, because I'm hoping they'll be one of the two civs to get a second leaderhead.
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186Rurik the Viking1.08%2Alexander Nevsky3.76%7Ivan III, the Great3.76%7Ivan IV, the Terrible11.29%21Peter I, the Great26.34%49Catherine II, the Great15.59%29Nicholas II1.61%3Vladimir Lenin16.13%30Josef Stalin - Screw Political Correctness!19.35%36Other (please specify)1.08%2The Apolytoner formerly known as Alexander01
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I want Stalin if for no other reason than his sexy mustache. -
Originally posted by ixnay
I want Stalin if for no other reason than his sexy mustache.
I went with Ivan IV and Peter I due to their charming personalities. I'm surprised not to see Kerensky or Ras-Putin."And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
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Ivan IV and Peter I. Both of them were important Russian leaders, and both to an extent represented different aspects of Russian growth.Visit The Frontier for all your geopolitical, historical, sci-fi, and fantasy forum gaming needs.Comment
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Nevsky and Lenin.
IIRC Nevsky was one of the earliest Russian leaders, and Lenin sure did a good job on changing the face of this country.Comment
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Peter or Catherine the Great and Lenin.
Rurik is too unrepresentative- you need the Asiatic element in Russian culture and identity mixed in too.Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
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Stalin off course, I loved playing against him in civ1. Every story needs it's bastards, that is why leaders like Stalin are needed in civ4. You need extreme aggresive leaders where the whole world unites against, this gives the game flavor
I think that they should just for each civilization with 2 leaders take the 2 most known leaders. It is much more fun to play against well known and big leaders then against some unknown ones, even if the unknow ones where actually the real big leaders. The only exception I would make would be for germany, because of obvious reasons. I think that in Russia it's case Stalin and Peter the great are the 2 most known leaders in the west.Comment
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Why not Ivan the Terrible? He was a horrible, brutalizing despot, and he's as well known in the west as Peter the Great.Originally posted by kolpo
Stalin off course, I loved playing against him in civ1. Every story needs it's bastards, that is why leaders like Stalin are needed in civ4. You need extreme aggresive leaders where the whole world unites against, this gives the game flavor
I think that they should just for each civilization with 2 leaders take the 2 most known leaders. It is much more fun to play against well known and big leaders then against some unknown ones, even if the unknow ones where actually the real big leaders. The only exception I would make would be for germany, because of obvious reasons. I think that in Russia it's case Stalin and Peter the great are the 2 most known leaders in the west.The Apolytoner formerly known as Alexander01
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"We can legislate until doomsday but that will not make men righteous." - George Albert Smith, A.D. 1949
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Ivan Grozny and Peter or Lenin. Ivan is a conqueror, and Peter/Lenin are both ideologists and builders more than conquerors.Solver, WePlayCiv Co-Administrator
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Catherine II and Stalin. I'm near confident these will be the Russian Civ4 leaders.Comment
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I really doubt that Stalin will be in it. The same stigma that keeps Hitler out of Civ has kept Stalin in out since Civ1.Originally posted by Novaya Havoc
Catherine II and Stalin. I'm near confident these will be the Russian Civ4 leaders.
As for the others, though my preference is Ivan the Terrible and Peter the Great, I wouldn't object to Catherine the Great or Vladmir Lenin.The Apolytoner formerly known as Alexander01
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"We can legislate until doomsday but that will not make men righteous." - George Albert Smith, A.D. 1949
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Lenin.I'm consitently stupid- Japher
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I'd agree with Lenin except that Stalin hijacked his revolution and twisted it into what we know today. From a revolutionary standpoint Trotsky would have been a better successor to Lenin."And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
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Lev Davidovich!Originally posted by Vince278
I'd agree with Lenin except that Stalin hijacked his revolution and twisted it into what we know today. From a revolutionary standpoint Trotsky would have been a better successor to Lenin.
I used to be a trotskist (trotskyst?) in my youth...
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