New Release date

[Joseph]

I received an e-mail from the Pub 2 days ago, stating the new release date is now Nov 1, 2005. I got the e-mail because I have already paid for the game.

[Vince278]

Still may be a little optimistic.

[Shogun Gunner]

Not thinking about cIV release date, and still immersed in Civ3 and ctp2 and trying to enjoy them before cIV is out. Once it's out, I might not return to Civ3...

[Locutus]

Normally I consider it arrogant when people quote themselves, but in this case I'll make an exception

Publisher and developer are the only ones who can say anything meaningful about a release date. Everyone else is full of it...

[Dauphin]

I thought you amended that, to "Everyone is full of it".

[Locutus]

No, I used the amended version here (it used to say something about 'unless quoting aforementioned parties', but then someone came around and claimed to quote them when clearly they weren't)

[Max Sinister]

I still guess 2006.

[Vince278]

EB Games has it listed for 11/2/05.

[Alex]

I'd say it will be Nov 15th, 2005.

[Nikolai]

I'd say noone has any real idea at all at this time.

[curtsibling]

My guess is the publishing people will aim for the xmas release...That makes sense.

[Nikolai]

Obviously. But I hope Firaxis has enough guts to postpone it, if the game's not ready by then...

[Brundlefly]

I will not buy Civ4 unless they can tell me that Civ4 will have a different design team whose idea of difficulty levels is a progressively stronger AI decision-making algorithm. Not "lets make the AI civs real strong and weaken the player" as difficulty level rises. A new team that is commited to design of a balanced game out of the box - not just offering some tweaks in a patch to hordes of dissatisfied customers.

I just started a game of Civ3 after having not played for almost a year. All of these shortcomings reminded me why it has been so long since I have played. It is impossible to play a peaceful game at Emperor or above. If you edit to make the AI less aggressive - is that REALLY solving the problem?

Firaxis is popular with scenario makers becuase they offer editting software to allow the user to "fine tune" his civ experience. That is just a way to market the fact that they did not want to spend time balancing the game.

Civ-series is a great concept - but I wish that Firaxis was more concerned with turning out a masterpiece than turning out something that falls far short, knowing that they will be able to cash-in either way... I hate waiting for patches.. How many do you think Civ4 will need?

Bethesda, the makers of Morrowind, now THERE is a company dedicated to an awesome product.

[Nikolai]

Or like Paradox. Magnificent support.

[Robert]

I will not buy Civ4 unless they can tell me that Civ4 will have a different design team whose idea of difficulty levels is a progressively stronger AI decision-making algorithm.

Of course we can hope that Firaxis will ship cIV with a few small guys in the box that'll act as an AI. That's in fact the only way to do what you want.

Remember that even with a fairly easy game as chess it's barely possible to build a computer that can beat a human player.