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  • #31
    Vince:

    Good to hear from you again.

    Yes .... I have also learned that it is necessary to have access to a really powerful system in order to be able to create big maps. Of course, playing them (without massive delays between turns) is yet another matter ....

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    • #32
      I wonder if its possible to have the map on a really good server and use it in a massive multiplayer online game.
      "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
      "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
      2004 Presidential Candidate
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      • #33
        This would be a truly fascinating idea !!

        In addition, for CIV, a really big and detailed World Map (with say 64 or even 128 players) might just enable some really interesting diplomacy, etc. Perhaps the United Nations Wonder might finally mean something ....

        Imho, this would constitute the next evolution for the Civ franchise. However, I would still love to be able to play this MMO-type map as a single player experience.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Son of moose
          Imho, this would constitute the next evolution for the Civ franchise.
          Sid? Firaxis? Anybody?!?
          "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
          "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
          2004 Presidential Candidate
          2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)

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          • #35
            Trip Shafer has been known to frequent these forums at times.

            Hopefully he might see this idea and take it further.

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            • #36
              @Adagio:

              No, I haven't tried loading it. I estimated the 1600x1600 map needed 10 GB of RAM.

              @Vince278:
              I used my own Map Generator (see signature), although the normal version limits size to 400x400.

              Check out my Atlas Map Generator
              Generate, preview and play Civ IV maps of any size with the alternative Map Generator

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              • #37
                Thanks.
                "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
                "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
                2004 Presidential Candidate
                2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Junuxx
                  @Adagio:

                  No, I haven't tried loading it. I estimated the 1600x1600 map needed 10 GB of RAM.
                  You mean you don't even have 10 GB ram in your computer?



                  This space is empty... or is it?

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                  • #39
                    I wonder if you can get USB RAM?
                    "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
                    "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
                    2004 Presidential Candidate
                    2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Vince278
                      I wonder if you can get USB RAM?
                      ask leo

                      @adagio:

                      I wish

                      Check out my Atlas Map Generator
                      Generate, preview and play Civ IV maps of any size with the alternative Map Generator

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                      • #41
                        When the game first came out I was struggling to play the game with even a standard sized map, Huge maps just brought my system to a jerky stuttering halt with hard resets very common.

                        The first patch didnt do much to help that but the latest patch along with my removal of a video card that I had nothing but problems with has enabled me to play huge maps with 11 civs.

                        I still get occasional crashes but these are CTD's and not hard resets like I was getting before. The funny thing is it runs very well and the crashes seem to be random but as I can get in a couple of hours play inbetween them I guess I can put up with it (that and the fact that I have it autosaving every turn).

                        The interesting thing is I only have 512Mb or RAM. It does slow down a little but nowhere near as bad as it did before 1.52.

                        My system is :

                        AMD Athlon XP 1800+ (1.5Ghz)
                        512 MB RAM
                        ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 256 Mb (a sidegrade from fx5700 nvidia - which I had nothing but problems with)
                        Onboard sound (the amazing AC97 !! )

                        Seeing as before I couldnt even play any map larger than standard I am quite happy.

                        My next upgrade will be more RAM tho

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Fire_Spy
                          AMD Athlon XP 1800+ (1.5Ghz)
                          512 MB RAM
                          ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 256 Mb (a sidegrade from fx5700 nvidia - which I had nothing but problems with)
                          Onboard sound (the amazing AC97 !! )
                          My specs are just below yours and I can't even play Large maps without a system crash occcasionaly. So I guess I'm not to far off. I was planning on upgrading this summer so it looks like I don't have to go up by much.

                          Athlon XP 1700+ (1.42Ghz)
                          1 GIG RAM
                          Radeon 9550 128 Mb

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                          • #43
                            I went in and edited it to 45X28 which is 1260, very close to double the size of the Huge. If your specs are something around 4400+, 7800GT, 2GB DDR-400 then try those dimensions.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Huge is Too Small

                              Originally posted by Willem


                              By your rationale, I should have no problem playing on Huge maps, since I have 1 gig of RAM, but that's simply not the case. I can't even play on Large without a good chance my computer will crash. And it's not because of overheating, it just can't handle the calculations that are involved with something as simple as moving a unit from A to B.
                              It's not the RAM. I can play Huge (the Earth scenario) maps on my computer. It gets EXTREMELY slow later, frequently 30 or more seconds for AI turns, but there's no loss of stability.

                              I do this with 768MB of RAM and an Athlon XP 3000+ that runs at about 2.2 Ghz. Have a Radeon 9600 video card though that won't make much difference.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Huge is Too Small

                                Originally posted by Badtz Maru
                                Have a Radeon 9600 video card though that won't make much difference.
                                It does though, having Huge maps increases the load on your video card. I just upgraded my system to a AMD 3500+ and added another 512 meg RAM, yet my video card still has a hard time redrawing the map when I select the grid option. And having the graphics turned up high causes my scrolling to slow down. I'm using a Radeon 9550, which isn't much different from yours.

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