Hillary Clinton, the Goldwater Girls and Margaret Sanger

[Ben Kenobi]

Which is completely different from being a racist. Other supporters of eugenics included Roosevelt, Winston Churchill, HG Wells and George Bernard Shaw. Just so we can be equally outraged.

Right. Which is why the whole founder of the entire movement argued that the black man was the most inferior. You should read Galton's Inquiry sometime.

[Berzerker]

slavery was a centuries long eugenics program

[OneFootInTheGrave]

Why would I do that? I also gave a statement of fact. Are you reading something into it?

Well yes, Hillary is an American, I am from the Balkans, and Barack is from Kenya.

If you put the three together, you cannot be racist only if you are Kenyan, if you are an American or from the Balkans, it is a foregone conclusion that you are racist by default.

I got the impression you are implying that Hillary is actually from Kenya, as this would resolve any credibility issues.

[The Mad Monk]

I see.

You are reading something into it.

[kentonio]

Right. Which is why the whole founder of the entire movement argued that the black man was the most inferior. You should read Galton's Inquiry sometime.

So you're arguing that because one of the founders of the eugenics movement was racist, that everyone else who ever agreed with the idea of eugenics must also have been racist?

[The Mad Monk]

I don't think it's too much of a stretch.

[kentonio]

Here's an example of how Sanger felt about racism incidentally. Unlike the quote in the op, this is actually genuine.

What hangs over the South is that the Negro has been in servitude. The white southerner is slow to forget this. His attitude is the archaic in this age. Supremacist thinking belongs in the museum.

[kentonio]

Here's another.

The big answer, as I see it, is the education of the white man. The white man is the problem. It is the same as with the Nazis. We must change the white attitudes. That is where it lies.

[-Jrabbit]

There you go again, posting inconvenient factual quotes.

[Ben Kenobi]

So you're arguing that because one of the founders of the eugenics movement was racist, that everyone else who ever agreed with the idea of eugenics must also have been racist?

I don't see it as a stretch that the purpose of the eugenics movement was to weed out people that the powers that be regarded as 'unfit'.

[Ben Kenobi]

As for Sanger, I've already provided quotes for how she saw black people as 'human weeds'. People are welcome to cast her into the mould of a heroine of social justice, but the truth is that she is and was not.

[Berzerker]

Jesse Owens walked into Berlin and left the superior race in his dust

[ZEE]

I have had enough of this.

Expect Ming to ban soem people's asses soon because I just reported half the people in this thrade for poasting blatent facts and messing up the status quo around here.

I will not tolerate truth and freedom of information.

[kentonio]

I don't see it as a stretch that the purpose of the eugenics movement was to weed out people that the powers that be regarded as 'unfit'.

No **** Sherlock, however the definition of 'unfit' is not 'black'. As unpleasant as the eugenics movement was, it wasn't directly race based, there were a LOT of eugenics supporters who wanted to remove the disabled and those prone to genetic diseases and didn't care a damn about the race involved.

As for Sanger, I've already provided quotes for how she saw black people as 'human weeds'. People are welcome to cast her into the mould of a heroine of social justice, but the truth is that she is and was not.

You posted a false quote. In normal society that is known as either a mistake or lying. Given that I told you it was a false quote and you've just repeated it anyway, I'm going to have to assume you're knowingly lying.

The fact you hate Sanger so much is actually quite bizarre. On one hand she supported eugenics so as a deaf person I can understand the hate, but she also deeply disliked abortion, so you might actually have got along.

[The Mad Monk]

also deeply disliked abortion, so you might actually have got along.

Wait. What?