Reply With QuoteBecause they are stupid.
Alternatively, because they are ignorant.
Next question.
Programming courses are for ITT Tech and DeVry.
Computer science frequently uses programming as a way of controlling computers, but that's not what computer science is. Programming is just a tool that is used.
I don't even program any more in my current role. I have to solve problems at a higher level - whether it's algorithm design, human-computer interactions, software architecture, statistical analysis, etc.
It's a big, broad world. Figure it out.
Because they are stupid.
Alternatively, because they are ignorant.
Next question.
If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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Same reason people think that planning is deciding what they'll probably do that night.
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Computer Science = Philosophy.
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Most people know nothing about it. I know nothing about it except what you've posted. But most people would just assume that "computer science" involves studying how computers work. And people with degrees in "computer science" always know how to program stuff.
And Asher has his answer.And people with degrees in "computer science" always know how to program stuff.
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If computer science is not a programming what would that be?
Would programming come under "arts and crafts"?
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The Problem is in the Name; In most Countries it is called something like Informatik, Datalogi, Informatique etc.
The Science of Information/Data in other Words, notice the Lack of the Word 'Computer' there?
I guess most People hear the Word Computer and assume if you studied Computers, then surely you can program.
Soooo mainly a Language Problem. Dialectic FTW
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Computer scientists can program and math majors can do arithmetic..are math majors calculators?Originally Posted by Ben Kenobi
I actually prefer having the "computer scientists = programmers" assumption being extant.
Random person: What do you do?
loin: I'm a computer scientist
Random person: Oh, so you're a programmer.
loin: Close enough.
Contrast this with my dad, who's an electrical engineer
Random person: What do you do?
loindad: I'm an electrical engineer
Random person: Oh, so you can repair my television!
loindad: No
Or my brother, who's a materials science engineer
Random person: What do you do?
loinbro: I'm a materials science engineer
Random person: What the hell is that?
loinbro: I design processes to put transistors onto integrated circuits
Random person: Why don't you get a real job?
I'm going to go with, "because nobody cares enough to find out."
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Wait, electrical engineers don't know how TVs work? What is electrical engineering about, then, lighting?
Asher, you're lucky you're speaking English. I have a business software engineering degree, and am called an informatician-economist in Russian, while those with compsci degrees are called mathematician-programmers.
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No, you're absolutely right, electrical engineering is all about television repair. In fact, in some languages (e.g. Dutch) they don't issue "Electrical Engineering" degrees, instead they issue "Television Repair" degrees.
Alas, while some so-called "electrical engineers" like my father may know how televisions work, they don't know the first thing about repairing a cracked cathode ray tube (which is what was wrong with my great-grandmother's TV when she asked him to repair it).
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No, seriously, I don't know what that degree means. Designing power plants? Or power lines? Or electric appliances? Or electronic hardware?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_engineering
It now covers a range of subtopics including power, electronics, control systems, signal processing and telecommunications.
Electrical engineering may include electronic engineering.
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Most electrical engineers I know are either software developers, HR managers, or they work in automation technology.
Why not? They understand calculus. You understand programming and the principles behind that.Computer scientists can program and math majors can do arithmetic..are math majors calculators?
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Computer scientists study calculus as well.
Now I'm confused.
My dad was an electronics engineer. He built our family's first TV, he usually repaired our TVs. That got to be a bit of a problem when his eyesight began to fail.
I don't think anyone would go to the trouble of repairing a cracked cathode ray tube. You'd have to make sure the internal magnets and the electron guns were ok, seal the crack, then re-establish the vacuum inside the tube.
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My dad repaired a few televisions (that didn't have cracked cathode ray tubes) - the problem was that my great-grandmother couldn't conceive of any possible use for an electrical engineering degree aside from repairing televisions.
My grandfather was a mechanical engineer, and his father was a lumberjack who couldn't conceive of any possible use for a mechanical engineering degree aside from building pulleys.
I am an EE, I do software, hardware, and mechanical design (including building/fabricating prototypes, etc).
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Is it because you assigned the value in the title rather than compared for equality?
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"Computer Science" is just a fancy way of justifying not taking a programming course at DeVry some ****.
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****ing computers, how do they work?
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I assumed it was about growing computers in petri dishes.
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I think you have to look at the history of computer science in academics. Back in the 80's a computer science degree was a programming degree for all intents and purposes. Apparently someone along the way realized that just programming wasn't "all that". The computer scientists that I know might as well be math majors these days. My son is getting his degree in computer science. If he takes just 3 additional math classes then he can have a double major.
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My BS in computer science automatically gave me a math minor. The university I attended also offered a BA in computer science (I don't know if they still do), which is essentially a degree in programming or code-monkeying. I know from group projects that somebody with or working on a BA in computer science is a tolerable programmer so long as somebody tells them exactly what to do.
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