Reply With QuoteSo, what percent do you think will vote to join the argies? My money is on single digits.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18412195The Falkland Islands will hold a referendum on its "political status" in a bid to end the dispute with Argentina over the archipelago's sovereignty.
The islands' government made the announcement ahead of the anniversary on marking 30 years since the end of Argentina's 74-day occupation in 1982.
It said it wanted to send a firm message to Argentina that islanders want to remain British.
The UK prime minister said Britain would support the result of the vote.
The referendum will be organised by the Falkland Islands government and will take place in the first half of next year.
'Economic blockade'
The announcement comes amid growing tensions between the UK and Argentina surrounding the anniversary commemorations marking the islands' liberation by British forces on 14 June, 1982.
Foreign Office Minister Jeremy Brown is currently there on an official trip.
Argentina claims sovereignty over the islands it calls the Malvinas, and wants the UK to negotiate over their rule.
Recently, UK ministers have accused Argentina of trying to impose an "economic blockade" on the islands.
The South American country has been turning away cruise ships carrying the British flag and is taking legal action against five British oil firms exploring the coast of the islands.
Gavin Short, chairman of the islands' legislative assembly, said they were holding the referendum "to show the world just how certain we are about it [our future]".
"I have no doubt that the people of the Falklands wish for the islands to remain a self-governing overseas territory of the United Kingdom.
"We certainly have no desire to be ruled by the government in Buenos Aires, a fact that is immediately obvious to anyone who has visited the islands and heard our views.
"But we are aware that not everybody is able to come to these beautiful islands and to see this reality for themselves.
"And the Argentine government deploys misleading rhetoric that wrongly implies that we have no strong views or even that we are being held hostage by the UK military. This is simply absurd."
'Resolute support'
Prime Minister David Cameron said it was "absolutely right" that the islanders set out how they intended to "make their voices heard once more".
"And Britain will be resolute in supporting their choice," he said.
"Next year's referendum will determine beyond doubt the views of the people of the Falklands. Britain will respect and defend their choice.
"We look to all UN members to live up to their responsibilities under the UN charter and accept the islanders' decision about how they want to live."
Foreign Secretary William Hague said: "I hope very much that Argentina, and indeed the whole of the international community, joins the UK in listening carefully to what they have to say."
The prime minister's official spokesman later confirmed the UK government had been aware of the plans and had been in discussions with the Falklands government before the announcement, but said "it was their decision and we fully support it".
Argentinian president, Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, is due to attend a meeting of the UN's decolonisation committee on Thursday.
The Falkland Islands, a rocky archipelago in the South Atlantic, are 7,780 miles from the UK and 1,140 miles from Buenos Aires.
With the exception of the 1982 occupation by Argentina - which sparked the Falklands War - they have been under British control since 1833.
It's a win/win situation, because absolutely ever possible result from this referendum will be hilarious.
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So, what percent do you think will vote to join the argies? My money is on single digits.
If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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i think it will turn out like the gibraltar referendum... (0.36% voted to join spain)
whoops. forgot about the 2002 'joint sovereignty' referendum, where a whopping 1% voted for the joint sovereignty.
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If they've got any sense, they'll rig a 49% vote for Argentina just to wring loads of panic-stricken subsidies from those Tories not wishing to go down in history as the ones who gave away Thatcher's moment of glory.
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Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"
Territory disputes got trickier for governments when it started mattering what the actual residents think. Although perhaps from a certain perspective they got simpler--"the answer is no"
If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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We already know the Argies are nothing but a bunch of black hearted pieces of dog **** who couldn't win an election to save their lives. Seriously, how the **** could they win against the U.K.? They don't have the money, the manpower, or the skill. The Brits would wipe their feet on them like a floor rug.
"Our scientific power has out run out spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer
Argentina's willing to go to war in order to incorporate the Falklands Islands? Again?
Good on them to hold a popular referendum.
The Brits have done that for most everyone I believe, let them go when the people wanted to guide their own ship.
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"*** dilectione hominum et odio vitiorum"
Like the Quebecois?If they've got any sense, they'll rig a 49% vote for Argentina just to wring loads of panic-stricken subsidies from those Tories not wishing to go down in history as the ones who gave away Thatcher's moment of glory.
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"*** dilectione hominum et odio vitiorum"
Clearly the frogs are subhuman. Surely everyone sees that.Originally Posted by Ben Kenobi
"Our scientific power has out run out spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer
do the sheep get a vote?
Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?
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Hahahha more comical racism from oerdin ahahhaha
Yeah. **** you too hipster douchebag.
ReferendumIt's not like the result will be any surprise at all.
Indifference is Bliss
**** off
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Perhaps the Argentines can replace the ballot papers with this question:
Should the Falkland Islands cease to remain a British Overseas Territory, and should the British Government not reject the Argentine offer of the Falkand Islands becoming a part of the Argentine nation?
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the Brits very nearly lost the Falklands. If the Argies had set their fuses correctly the Brits would have lost more ships.
Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?
My greatest wish is to be half the poster MikeH is.
In Argentina no one thinks of a war because we have almost no army, the military is extremely unpopular not only because of the war they made us lose, but because of all the people they murdered and the economic mess they left, in fact, all the leaders of the military coup, and many low ranked members, are in jail for human right abuses, something that did not happen in other countries that also had military dictatorships, like Spain or Chile.
The way we found of stopping the military from becoming a threat to democracy was to leave it with no money at all, that bad thing about that is that we could not beat Perú in a war nowadays to mention some country, they would steam roll us.
We don't care about the falklands referendum because the Islands have an extremly small population, around 3000 if you don't count the military base, and they are heavily subsided by the british goverment in ordr for them to stay there, they are a flag planted on the south atlantic in order to be able to exploit the surrounding waters in the same way the british have done with the northern sea oil in case you find something.
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Gee, the international community ignored the referendums in South Ossetia and Abkhazia, why should this one count? Oh wait, I forgot, this one is being run by white people for white people.
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This is a great plan, and Israel should follow Britain's lead by suggesting that the Jewish settlements in the West Bank hold a sovereignty referendum of their own. Certainly everyone in this thread will respect their democratically expressed wishes!
If only the BBC had alerted the Argies to their fusing problems earlier.
Are you suggesting Russians aren't white?
PS: I'm pretty sure that the "international community" does not care about this referendum or the Falklands.
If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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That is what they did in Ireland. If joining ireland becomes by far the most popular opinion in northern ireland, but one of the 6 counties still prefers to be a part of the UK, you can be sure they will keep that one instead of allowing a unified Ireland.This is a great plan, and Israel should follow Britain's lead by suggesting that the Jewish settlements in the West Bank hold a sovereignty referendum of their own. Certainly everyone in this thread will respect their democratically expressed wishes!
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Yes, it is all rather irrelevent HD, both this referendum and the argentine claims. This will not be decided in decades.
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Yup. The British truly are the master imperialists.
I think it already is decided. Brits own the Falklands.
If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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The Falklanders have been there for nearly two centuries and aren't a "settlement".This is a great plan, and Israel should follow Britain's lead by suggesting that the Jewish settlements in the West Bank hold a sovereignty referendum of their own. Certainly everyone in this thread will respect their democratically expressed wishes!
"South Africa is a shithole. It used to be a decent place." -Ben Kenobi, sharing his wisdom on world history
You're implying that there's a statute of limitations on land theft. What is it? 50 years? 100 years? How long do the Jewish settlers have to hold out before the land is theirs?
The falklanders who have XIX century ancestors in the islands are 1800 people, I don't think such a small population had a right of self determination. And they are slightly over half of the population, they could become a minority.
And they arrived after an argentine governor and the small argentine population was expulsed, they are not natives.
I am not saying they don't have a right to be there, and that their property should not be respected. For Argentina their are potentially argentines since they are people born in what Argentina sees as argentine territory, so they could ask for argentine IDs, use our hospitals for free and go to college here, it was quite common before the war.
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Once everyone who had land stolen from them is dead (let's say 100 years) then their descendants should shut up.
"South Africa is a shithole. It used to be a decent place." -Ben Kenobi, sharing his wisdom on world history
this.
the people there clearly want to remain british. the argentinians tried to take islands by force and lost. it's about time the argentinian politicians shut up about it.
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