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  • What evidence is needed for a rape conviction?

    Seems to me that a woman's word is the only evidence needed.

    The rape conviction of once-promising California prep football star Brian Banks has been vacated following his accuser's recantation.


    A former high school football star whose dreams of a pro career were shattered by a rape conviction burst into tears Thursday as a judge threw out the charge that sent him to prison for more than five years.

    Brian Banks, now 26, pleaded no contest 10 years ago on the advice of his lawyer after a childhood friend falsely accused him of attacking her on their high school campus.

    In a strange turn of events, the woman, Wanetta Gibson, friended him on Facebook when he got out of prison.

    In an initial meeting with him, she said she had lied; there had been no kidnap and no rape and she offered to help him clear his record, court records state.

    But she refused to repeat the story to prosecutors because she feared she would have to return a $1.5 million payment from a civil suit brought by her mother against Long Beach schools.

    During a second meeting that was secretly videotaped, she told Banks, "'I will go through with helping you but it's like at the same time all that money they gave us, I mean gave me, I don't want to have to pay it back," according to a defense investigator who was at the meeting.
    He was a USC recruit back in 2003. Instead of playing college football and maybe making the NFL, he served 5 years and was a registered sex offender.

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    It was uncertain Thursday whether Gibson will have to return the money.

    Prosecutors also said they didn't immediately know if she might be prosecuted for making the false accusation when she was 15.
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  • #2
    Plea bargaining

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    • #3
      Seems like there was a rape (otherwise why plead guilty?), then, not having had sex for the past five years, she concocted this plan to get him out of prison.

      And what kind of hood rat name is Wanetta? Disgusting. Was Shrontrelle taken?

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      • #4
        Innocent people plea guilty because fighting it in court will result in a tougher sentence.

        What evidence is needed to convict someone of rape? The woman's word is sufficient.


        Plus he was a teenager so he could have been pressured.
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        • #5
          What evidence is needed to convict someone of rape? The woman's word is sufficient.
          Not really. Most trials I have seen where it is just he said, she said end in mistrial or acquittal.

          Innocent people plea guilty because fighting it in court will result in a tougher sentence
          People do stupid things all the time.

          Plus he was a teenager so he could have been pressured.
          Okay.

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          • #6
            I was worried that this thread was another sad episode in Alby's love life
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Wiglaf View Post
              Not really. Most trials I have seen where it is just he said, she said end in mistrial or acquittal.
              That includes rape of a minor?

              I would think that's a sure-fire conviction if there ever is one, even if it's just she said. What jury acquits that?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by loinburger View Post
                I was worried that this thread was another sad episode in Alby's love life
                Is it sad that I assumed Albie was going to claim that he'd been raped?

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                • #9
                  "I was just sitting there talking about music, and all of a sudden she showed me her breasts! Do I have a solid 'mental anguish' case against her?"
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                  • #10
                    Is it sad that I assumed Albie was going to claim that he'd been raped?
                    By a woman? Surely you jest.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                      That includes rape of a minor?

                      I would think that's a sure-fire conviction if there ever is one, even if it's just she said. What jury acquits that?
                      What? Michael Jackson

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                      • #12
                        Brian Banks, now 26, pleaded no contest 10 years ago on the advice of his lawyer...
                        MORONS... Both him and his lawyer.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ming View Post
                          MORONS... Both him and his lawyer.
                          The lawyer sure, but this is like we were discussing in the other thread a few weeks ago; plea bargains create this situation where innocent people have to choose between pleading and being falsely imprisoned, or trying to prove their innocence and potentially being locked up for decades. It's pretty sick.

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                          • #14
                            He said... She said... and he knew he didn't do it... I'd roll the dice on that one.
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                            • #15
                              Start with the fact that rape conviction rates are tiny.

                              Then if's obvious that the OP is asking the entirely wrong question about this case, which is a judicial process problem.
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