I don't remember quite this much hate a few years ago. What did *I* miss?
Also, BK, how long were you banned for and why?
For being such an excellent Christian that he threatened to beat up Loin repeatedly for "dissing" David Floyd, calling him an immoral racist or something equally accurate. Which, it turns out, constitutes assault and is against the law, however laughable the threat may be. So we were free for six months.
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Also the gays.
The gays were free for six months? What happened after that?
"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work...After eight years of this Administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!" — Henry Morgenthau, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Treasury secretary, 1941.
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria.
A few years ago, BK was still the polite, even likeable, poster with scary politics. Sure, he tended to ignore other whatever positions other posters made in order to make his bizarre, reactionary points, but that was all part of his charm.Originally Posted by b etor
In recent years, however, he has come across as increasingly bitter, making his posts (often on the exact same points as before) seem hateful rather than just out of touch with reality. This lead to the bulk of regular posters here to slide over from a "crazy, but harmless" position to the "kill it with fire" line that has held by a tiny minority (lol Asher LOL) all along.
There are still those of us, though, who still like him as a person and/or realize that the actual content of his posts hasn't changed at all since he registered, and attribute the change in tone to whatever **** he's been going through in his life outside of Poly. This group sees that, whatever BK's faults, Apolyton is worse off for not having him around, just as it is worse off without other "colourful" posters, like Ned, Fez and Agathon.
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Ben is annoying because the way he debates makes it almost impossible to conduct an intelligent discussion. It doesn't just have to do with the fact that he's a vitriolic hatemonger. He's downright disruptive and consistently, impossibly wrong about everything.
If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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That's always been true, though. Something else has changed in the last couple of years.
If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Belgium Doesn't Exist! ~ Eventis: Catastrophic database failure free since March 19, 2012 Eventis AD&D 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1: Into the Widlerness, Chapter 2: Brotherhood of the Wolf ~ New! Star Trek: Eventis
Hey now, don't start conflating Ben with Oerdin.
Oerdin doesn't have a monopoly on always-wrongness.
If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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Exactly, on all points.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
Good post, Joncha.
I used to play Civ2 Succession Games with BK, back when this was a gaming site. Ben was a positive contributor to that late, lamented group (the Scouse Gits were the ringleaders). So no matter what I think of Ben's politics or opinions on football, apparently the fact that I had fun gaming with him -- back in the day, when Civ was Civ and Poly was Poly -- trumps it.
Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms
I'd put it down to group think or clique-ism, with some anti-Catholic prejudice on the side.
"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier
Moderation.
BK: The Abu Qatada of Poly...
"History is a lie that has been honed like a weapon by people who have suppressed the truth. Centuries from now, your own history will also be suppressed."
As a matter of fact he does. I believe it is patent protected.
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He made a mistake on the patent application, so no.
Hi Ben!!!
I'm not sure I'd go this far.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
I would.
"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work...After eight years of this Administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!" — Henry Morgenthau, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Treasury secretary, 1941.
Fez still lurks...he PMed me yesterday. You wouldn't believe how different he is now...in so many ways.
I don't 'hate' Ben. Hatred would be reserved for those who torture animals and people, but I tend to temper it with pity and contempt.
I just find anyone who constantly crows about being a Christian and then acts and speaks the way Ben does rather.... hypocritical.
Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915
He's now straight, but no longer a Nazi?
If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Belgium Doesn't Exist! ~ Eventis: Catastrophic database failure free since March 19, 2012 Eventis AD&D 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1: Into the Widlerness, Chapter 2: Brotherhood of the Wolf ~ New! Star Trek: Eventis
You know they have pills for this now.Meanwhile we all learned that this forum, like the world, is better off with you not in it.
Scouse Git (2) LaFayette Adam Smith and Solomwi you will be missed
"Learning carries within itself certain dangers because out of necessity one has to learn from one's enemies." - Trotsky.
"I don't consider any of them authoritative" - Kidicious on Scripture.
Hell, my sig still has the Git and Lafayette. Miss 'em. Nik kept me occupied during my ban by playing co-op Crusader Kings. Had a blast. Took the County of Trondheim all the way up to emperor.I used to play Civ2 Succession Games with BK, back when this was a gaming site. Ben was a positive contributor to that late, lamented group (the Scouse Gits were the ringleaders). So no matter what I think of Ben's politics or opinions on football, apparently the fact that I had fun gaming with him -- back in the day, when Civ was Civ and Poly was Poly -- trumps it.
I'm really sorry for the football sparring. That got way too personal and I'm trying to stay away from that and turn over a new leaf. I want to be that polite poster that I was known for being before.
Scouse Git (2) LaFayette Adam Smith and Solomwi you will be missed
"Learning carries within itself certain dangers because out of necessity one has to learn from one's enemies." - Trotsky.
"I don't consider any of them authoritative" - Kidicious on Scripture.
We should open a book on how long that lasts!
"History is a lie that has been honed like a weapon by people who have suppressed the truth. Centuries from now, your own history will also be suppressed."
6 months. I told loin that I could kick his ass. He took that as a personal threat. The whole issue between me and loin was over Floyd.Also, BK, how long were you banned for and why?
I know that Floyd isn't well liked here, but I got a chance to actually meet the guy and get to know him. And I have to say I like him a whole lot better than most folks here. He helped me out of a sticky spot and I'm very grateful that he did. I owe that to him, and despite our disagreements on many issues, I'm going to stick up for him.
Loin, et al have a problem with someone who doesn't 'toe the line', and I'm fine with that. I've never toed the line on anything and I'm not sure why they expect me to do so now. What did they think I was gonna do? Toss him under a bus? I've never done that to anyone who's stuck their neck out for me, and I'm not about to now.
Anyhoo, you can look that up in the moderation thread if you go back 6 months. I've done my time.
Scouse Git (2) LaFayette Adam Smith and Solomwi you will be missed
"Learning carries within itself certain dangers because out of necessity one has to learn from one's enemies." - Trotsky.
"I don't consider any of them authoritative" - Kidicious on Scripture.
I am sure he is doing quite...well...fabulously
But anyway, why are so many people welcoming BK back with open arms? Seems quite strange.
Speaking of Erith:
"It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith
Why?
"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work...After eight years of this Administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!" — Henry Morgenthau, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Treasury secretary, 1941.
Well I'm trying to be tactful here...
Speaking of Erith:
"It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith
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