Reply With QuoteUsually teams perfer to play the weaker team earlier in the playoffs.
While we've been better against the Rays, the Rays are also red hot right now, and we've managed to hold our own against the Yanks.Originally Posted by Imran Siddiqui
Also of note, that record against the Yanks was before the coming of the Fister.
As rah says, though, it's academic. Either we play the Yanks, or we don't.
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Usually teams perfer to play the weaker team earlier in the playoffs
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Dunno.So Clayton Kershaw wins his 20th in the NL. It seems the Cy Young is a race between him and Halladay. I think Kershaw wins it this year because Halladay won it last year and he'll likely get votes siphoned off by Lee.
19-6 2.35 233.2 IPs 220 SOs ERA+ 164 1.040 WHIP, 1.3 BB/9 8.5 SO/9 6.29 SO/BB
21.5 2.28 233.1 IPs 248 SOs ERA+ 163 .977 WHIP, 3.5 BB/9 9.4 SO/9 2.68 SO/BB
Kershaw has a marginally better ERA, marginally better SOs, marginally better WHIP, 3x the walk rate, marginally better K/9 and half the K/BB.
Halladay is close to Kershaw on everything and is way better on walks.
If you look at BABIP, Kershaw is at .272 and Halladay is at .300 Halladay has pitched well, despite being unlucky, while Kershaw has benefitted from luck. Same with Cliff Lee. Lee is at .317 for BABIP, and has also been unlucky. So really, Kershaw would be 3rd on my ballot.
I think Halladay the better pitcher, take away the park advantage and the luck advantage and Halladay has pitched just a little bit better than Kershaw. He's also been more consistant having one outing giving up more than 3 runs. One. Also, the Phillies went 5-2 in his ND.
Cliff Lee, btw:
17-8 2.40 232.2 238 SO 161 ERA+ 1.027 WHIP, 1.6 BB/9 9.2 SO/9 5.67 SO/BB
Basically, Halladay is just a little bit better on everything except WHIP and SO.
Also looking down the rotation:
Phillies have:
Roy Halladay - 164 ERA+
Cliff Lee - 161 ERA+
Cole Hamels - 141 ERA+
Vance Worley - 128 ERA+
Roy Oswalt - 100 ERA+
Compare with the 1997 Braves:
Maddux - 189
Glavine - 141
Neagle - 140
Smoltz - 138.
Maybe not *quite* as good as the best of the Braves.
How the heck did the Marlins beat the Braves 4-2 for the NL pennant?
Last edited by Ben Kenobi; September 27, 2011 at 16:10.
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The award is based on votes, not statistics. Kershaw winning 20+ for the abortion that is the Dodgers will likely put him over the top.
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Rays win, Bo Sox survive. Cards win, Braves lose.
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Philly vs. Texas
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I'm somewhat ambivalent as well. I kind of see the playoffs as a bit of a crap shoot anyhow. No one thinks the 06 Cardinals were the better team, but they won the WS anyhow. Anything can happen.Usually teams perfer to play the weaker team earlier in the playoffs
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And then it comes down to the last game of the season (well, barring 1 game playoffs) in both Wildcards! What a finish!
Tonight's starters:
Boston v. Baltimore - Lester v. Simon
NYY v. Tampa Bay - TBD v. Price (I'm thinking the Yanks bring up a rookie to pitch here)
Philadelphia v. Atlanta - Blanton v. Hudson
St. Louis v. Houston - Carpenter v. Myers
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Indeed. I enjoyed watching the Barves roll over for the Phillies and Little Roy, and watch their hopes vanish when the Cards came back. The Barves gave up a 10.5 game lead, but that's not even half as bad as what the Red Sox collapse. If the Sox lose, and I as a Jays fan, will be thrilled to see two teams I hate choke and die. Go Cards + Rays!And then it comes down to the last game of the season (well, barring 1 game playoffs) in both Wildcards! What a finish!
4 important games.
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The fact that there are meaningful games tonight is both good for baseball and a testament to the incredible choke-jobs it took to add that meaning.
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Braves going to extra innings, fighting to stay alive. Cards winning, Tampa losing, and the BoSox lead by one in a rain delay.
Last edited by Ben Kenobi; September 28, 2011 at 22:17.
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7-6! Rays back in it!
Only down by 1 run. 4 outs left.
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"Learning carries within itself certain dangers because out of necessity one has to learn from one's enemies." - Trotsky.
"I don't consider any of them authoritative" - Kidicious on Scripture.
An exciting day for baseball!! Not just down to the last game, but it is entirely possible there will be some one-game playoffs. And the Boston game is in a rain delay. Some teams are gonna be rather tired for the start of the playoffs...
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Rays were down 7-0!
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"Learning carries within itself certain dangers because out of necessity one has to learn from one's enemies." - Trotsky.
"I don't consider any of them authoritative" - Kidicious on Scripture.
Lets see what happens! Two outs to go.
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When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
Home run!!!!!!!!!!
Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
Rays go yard again! Tie ballgame! 7-7!
Scouse Git (2) LaFayette Adam Smith and Solomwi you will be missed
"Learning carries within itself certain dangers because out of necessity one has to learn from one's enemies." - Trotsky.
"I don't consider any of them authoritative" - Kidicious on Scripture.
Suck it Yankees and BoSox!
Scouse Git (2) LaFayette Adam Smith and Solomwi you will be missed
"Learning carries within itself certain dangers because out of necessity one has to learn from one's enemies." - Trotsky.
"I don't consider any of them authoritative" - Kidicious on Scripture.
Rain delays! Extra innings! Coming down to the very end in both leagues!!
Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
Extra Innings! Hell of a night. 2 of the 3 games went to extras. O's still rained out.
Scouse Git (2) LaFayette Adam Smith and Solomwi you will be missed
"Learning carries within itself certain dangers because out of necessity one has to learn from one's enemies." - Trotsky.
"I don't consider any of them authoritative" - Kidicious on Scripture.
161 games + 9 innings wasn't enough.Rain delays! Extra innings! Coming down to the very end in both leagues!!
Rather nice of the Yankees to sit Mariano.
Scouse Git (2) LaFayette Adam Smith and Solomwi you will be missed
"Learning carries within itself certain dangers because out of necessity one has to learn from one's enemies." - Trotsky.
"I don't consider any of them authoritative" - Kidicious on Scripture.
Well with Texas winning, all I'm rooting for now is the NY-TB game to go to the 17th inning and wear out the Yankees.
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Heaven forbid. They might get teh vapors or something.Well with Texas winning, all I'm rooting for now is the NY-TB game to go to the 17th inning and wear out the Yankees.
Scouse Git (2) LaFayette Adam Smith and Solomwi you will be missed
"Learning carries within itself certain dangers because out of necessity one has to learn from one's enemies." - Trotsky.
"I don't consider any of them authoritative" - Kidicious on Scripture.
27 players they've used so far.
Scouse Git (2) LaFayette Adam Smith and Solomwi you will be missed
"Learning carries within itself certain dangers because out of necessity one has to learn from one's enemies." - Trotsky.
"I don't consider any of them authoritative" - Kidicious on Scripture.
Napoli has 4 homers in his last 7 at bats for Texas.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
Phillies take their first lead of the game. Braves on life support.
Scouse Git (2) LaFayette Adam Smith and Solomwi you will be missed
"Learning carries within itself certain dangers because out of necessity one has to learn from one's enemies." - Trotsky.
"I don't consider any of them authoritative" - Kidicious on Scripture.
Braves are done. Wow.
"My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud
Wow, what a September swoon for Atlanta. What a heartbreaker for a final game too. 13 innings, whew.
Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
Braves out! The Braves have collapsed! 10.5 games successfully pissed away.
Scouse Git (2) LaFayette Adam Smith and Solomwi you will be missed
"Learning carries within itself certain dangers because out of necessity one has to learn from one's enemies." - Trotsky.
"I don't consider any of them authoritative" - Kidicious on Scripture.
August 25th
Phillies 83-45
Braves 79-53 6 GB (0) WC
Brewers 78-54
Cards 68-63 9.5 GB (10.5) WC
Diamondbacks 72-59
Giants 69-63 3 GB (10) WC
Scouse Git (2) LaFayette Adam Smith and Solomwi you will be missed
"Learning carries within itself certain dangers because out of necessity one has to learn from one's enemies." - Trotsky.
"I don't consider any of them authoritative" - Kidicious on Scripture.
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