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    umm... abstinence is a sure way to prevent AIDS... what's the problem?
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    The problem is that liberals would rather we feel bad for ourselves than address the real issue.
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    feel bad for ourselves how? by helping africans not contract a fatal disease?
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    Read Leo's post to me - in response to my point that I shouldn't have to pay for the bad decision to have sex in an AIDs rich environment, he said that they have to pay for my lifestyle. Aside from the fact that that assertion isn't really true, it also completely misses the point.
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    yeah but dave... you're just a coldhearted bastard...

    and as for leo... what insanity is this? we're out there stressing the only 100% effective way to combat AIDS... the article says it's been working in Uganda at least. what are we doing wrong? are you insane, Leo?

    or is this that all too common situation of the US' *****, the UN, fully aware that we are it's pimp and master, just making snide remarks and biting at us cause thats all it can ****ing do?
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    Originally posted by David Floyd


    And I thought you were talking about how the world economy would be grossly affected by the collapse of African nations.
    Well, I wasn't. My have expressed myself poorly.
    But then you turn around and say that they aren't prosperous enough to import much, meaning that the economic collapse of Eritrea would concern the world economy not in the least.
    Well, it certainly would affect the world economy. Just not much.
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    Originally posted by Kucinich
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    That's a lie.

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    Originally posted by Albert Speer
    umm... abstinence is a sure way to prevent AIDS... what's the problem?
    Because you can contract the HIV virus from a number of ways.

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    i doubt blood transfussions are the way most Africans are contracting AIDS...
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    You still cannot just tell people just stop doing X when X is just as basic to a human being as eating, drinking, and breathing.
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    i have never had sex
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    That explains a lot.










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    If Africans stopped having sex, the consequences would be rather worse than what AIDS currently doing ...
    Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

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    my point is, it's a necessity for the species but not for an individual organism. they can all just jack off or something to get it out of their system. i dont know.
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    Question

    Originally posted by St Leo
    It doesn't prevent the spread of AIDS.
    How so?

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    It merely impedes it but won't stop the spread utterly
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    You still haven't answered the question.
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    Originally posted by St Leo
    Originally posted by Kucinich
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    So, you don't give a **** that the Bush Administration is condemning hundreds of millions of Africans to a hellish death?
    Hellish? I thought we were talking about AIDS, not Ebola. As deaths go, AIDS isn't particularly hellish.

    Condemning? How so? It's their own damn fault.

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    Originally posted by Urban Ranger
    That's a lie.

    If you don't care, why would you bother to respond at all?
    For the same reason DD does, I'm sure: I'm bored, and Apolyton is entertaining.

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    I like the "My precious gives a **** is broken" line anyway.
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    Originally posted by Urban Ranger
    You still cannot just tell people just stop doing X when X is just as basic to a human being as eating, drinking, and breathing.
    Not exactly... given that there are people who die without having had sex (granted, few of them), but NONE who die (a reasonable time after birth) without having eaten, drunk, or breathed.

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    How many people here, who aren't pathetic nerds who can't get a woman, would actually take seriously the idea that they should never have sex, or that they should have sex only while married?

    Since preaching abstinence doesn't even work as well as contraception advice in preventing teen pregnancies, I fail to see why it is supposed to work to prevent the spread of AIDS.
    Only feebs vote.

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    Personally I'm trying to understand the He's condemning people to death line. It reminds me of Mr Fun's idiotics rants regarding Reagan.
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    Because taking some sort of religious stance on this matter and refusing to help unless worthless "abstinence" campaigns are included leads to many deaths.

    Bush and the Republicans are idiots at the best of times, but on this issue they have stooped even lower.
    Only feebs vote.

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    Originally posted by Agathon
    How many people here, who aren't pathetic nerds who can't get a woman, would actually take seriously the idea that they should never have sex, or that they should have sex only while married?


    When surrounded by AIDS, yes.

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    Originally posted by Agathon
    Because taking some sort of religious stance on this matter and refusing to help unless worthless "abstinence" campaigns are included leads to many deaths.
    No it doesn't. It just fails (according to your claim) to prevent them.

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    And only Republicans believe that omissions are less blameworthy than acts.
    Only feebs vote.

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    Originally posted by Agathon
    Because taking some sort of religious stance on this matter and refusing to help unless worthless "abstinence" campaigns are included leads to many deaths.
    It seems to me irresponsible habits in a veritable hot zone of STDs is what is leading to deaths in this case.

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    Originally posted by DinoDoc
    It seems to me irresponsible habits in a veritable hot zone is what is leading to deaths in this case.
    Typical Republicans. Blame the victims.

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    And we are just as naturally irresponsible in our own sexual habits. It's just that we have the state and societial conditions to mitigate the effects of our behaviour. If we lived in an African society we would probably be behaving in much the same fashion.
    Only feebs vote.

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