Greece court convicts November 17 mastermind, 14 others

[MarkG]

our terrorists are the worst in the world. they killed the humangous number of 23 people in only 30 years, establishing a terrorist-heaven in greece (which was almost entered in some "bad countries cia list" for all that). NOW we're safe....

[VetLegion]

Funny use of term "terrorist-heaven".

It took 30 years to find these guys, while for example Germans and Italians solved their problems much quicker AFAIK. If what BBC says is true, that most people felt 17N was just 'taking care of the dirty work', than CIA just added two and two. No surprise there. The fact that the average patriotic Greek was pretty safe from 17N the whole time has nothing to do with the fact did government or did it not actively seek out the terrorists.

Frankly I don't care, when I visit at the olympics there will be Israelis and Americans taking care of my safety so I'll feel secure, kind of

[Bereta_Eder]

No it will be us. So don't feel so secure

[VetLegion]

What, did the medication wear off?

[Bereta_Eder]

Ah adding that winking smilie next to the scared after my post I see. Very good.

[Bereta_Eder]

17 November never was a real threat to the Greek people.

It was born after the Junta and it's first assasinations were Junta torturers that were left free by Greek "justice" of the time and the CIA stationed Chief. US government supported the Junta. So why would the Greek people (those of democratic believes at least) fear or oppose them?

As for how the US handled things, exactly as 17 November hoped for.

Nevertheless after the first assassinations it quickly lost its "appeal".

[Bereta_Eder]

Funilly enough they didn't actually get convicted for killing the CIA chief or the Junta torturers because after 20 years of action those crime were erased.

[VetLegion]

17 November never was a real threat to the Greek people.

I said that

US government supported the Junta. So why would the Greek people fear or oppose them?

Why would you oppose terrorists? Give me a minute with that one.

As for how the US handled things, exactly as 17 November hoped for.

How was that?

Nevertheless after the first assassinations it quickly lost its "appeal".

Not that quickly it would seem.

[VetLegion]

Originally posted by paiktis22
Funilly enough they didn't actually get convicted for killing the CIA chief or the Junta torturers because after 20 years of action those crime were erased.

Funny that. Most crimes get obsolete, as far as I know only war crimes don't. Weird how terror acts do.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by VetLegion
Why would you oppose terrorists? Give me a minute with that one.

I already answered that. Go and check it out

How was that?

Turned against the whole country and childlishly overblowing the subject out of proportions. Thinking about conspiracy theories and other paranoia.

Not that quickly it would seem.

Quickly enough I'd say.

[Bereta_Eder]

Also, you are underestimating the real impact of not actually targeting everyday people.
It wasn't Al Qaeda, if it was you bet you'd have seen much more than mere indifference.
Also its proclamations were overly populist.

[VetLegion]

Turned against the whole country and childlishly overblowing the subject out of proportions.

Overblowing the subject? USA can raise hell if it wants, like when they blew up a civilian pharmaceutical factory in Sudan as a response to terrorist attacks. Greece got nothing even remotely resembling that harsh reaction.

Quickly enough I'd say.

And your idolizing threads just prior (very ironic) to the busting of 17N are a proof of that.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by VetLegion
Overblowing the subject? USA can raise hell if it wants, like when they blewing up a civilian pharmaceutical factory in Sudan as a response to terrorist attacks. Greece got nothing even remotely resembling that harsh reaction.

And for that it harvested fierce antiamericanism. Not exactly a wise way of handling things. But then again... it isn't often very bright.

And your idolizing threads just prior (very ironic) to the busting of 17N are a proof of that.

Point me out one.

[VetLegion]

Originally posted by paiktis22
Also, you are underestimating the real impact of not actually targeting everyday people.
It wasn't Al Qaeda, if it was you bet you'd have seen much more than mere indifference.
Also its proclamations were overly populist.

You should understand that I am not 'attacking' 17N.

But it is really interesting how both you and MarkG feel the need to defend them (ok I understand about you since you used to praise them)

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by MarkG
establishing a terrorist-heaven in greece

You know when I saw you were trolling I never thought you'd be telling the truth.