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  • #61
    Originally posted by Monkeycheez
    I would just like to point out that real wars don't happen in turns
    And covert operations do not happen with one guy going in and killing everyone. WWII was not decided by one man escaping from prison killing all the guards and the monsters. Real criminals like ones that kill cops, run over pedestrians, and beat people with baseball bats go to jail and not hero status.

    So are games true? No they are games.

    That said - a game of all of civilization's history in an hour? Come on how true is that? But if it is fun, then I will enjoy it. Likewise I find TBS games to be fun and challenging. Same way with other games. Are they what really happens? No but then that is a point of a game.
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    • #62
      rts sucks

      Have you tried Warlords Battlecry II, Kohan, SimCity 2000, or Europa Universalis II?
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      • #63
        You Call Sim city 2000 a rts? It qualifies as an economic game in most reviews.

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        • #64
          the genre's name is "city-building", and sim4 is out and ur talking about sim2000?

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Monkeycheez
            You Call Sim city 2000 a rts? It qualifies as an economic game in most reviews.
            Most sites list it as a strategy game. Go to Gamespot or Gamespy and it will be under the strategy section.

            Now think about how it is played, is it real time or turn based.

            Well then I would believe that it is a RTS. Not all RTS are war games.
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            • #66
              Amen Brother

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Tassadar5000
                Simcity 4 sucks IMO
                oh come on, that's only because you suck at it
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #68
                  ur out-voted sava .... the last time i played sim3, i remember i destroyed my city to watch it burn (out of boredem of course)

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                  • #69
                    RON is a different kind of game than Civ3, so its hard to say that one is better than the other. One can like one game better than the other but you can not say that one IS better thanthe other, as far as game play goes. At least that is how I look at it.

                    Civ3 has it's disapointments, not so much as it is not fun to play or lacks certain abilities; but I was expecting so much more because of it's predecessors. To me Civ3 is more like Civ2.5

                    While I haven't played RON (and many haven't as well, but still are saying it's better than Civ3 already) I do suspect that it will be a great and fun game to play. I'm judgin it by a couple of things. First the fact the BR is behind it (nuff said). Second, the scope of the game as described by BR is extremely interesting and will make the game an instant hit if they can get what they wanted in the game to play correctly for the end user. Third, the screenshots are great. not so much the artwork (which is pretty good) but the kind of interactions that are shown between units (and other units) and buildings is awesome.

                    These are two different games in my opinion, each worthy in its own classification (even if I expected more from Civ3).

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                    • #70
                      yes well civ series is firmly in the TBS arena, while RoN is firmly in the RTS arena really so it is not really comparable. RoN tries to incorporate many TBS elements in the overall game, but you can play without experiencing any TBS trappings.
                      Are you down with ODV?

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                      • #71
                        I hope it beat out the civ games. I have tried many times to play Civ 3 mp, and I just cant do it. My favorite ages our Industrail and Modern, but with the pace of the game it takes days to get to those ages and is a big pain in the neck to do. With RON being able to advance in hour through all the ages is a plus. For single player i would take more time to play, but when you are play others you dont want a game that last days.
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                        • #72
                          Jack,

                          I think that is the important difference between RTS and TBS games. Obviously there is no way that RTS can have the depth as a TBS (or at least not in any that I have seen) but in terms of fun - RTS are so much better with MP games.
                          About 24,000 people die every day from hunger or hunger-related causes. With a simple click daily at the Hunger Site you can provide food for those who need it.

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                          • #73
                            lets have a vote: RTS vs TBS

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                            • #74
                              RTS for mp
                              TBS for sp
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Tassadar5000
                                Simcity 4 sucks IMO
                                Can I have your game then?
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