RON - Where is USA? PC Run Amok?

[dhamrick]

I was just curious if anyone could postulate why there was an absence of an American side, and further, now that I think about it, why USA or NASA would have been absent (seemingly scrubbed) from the space shuttle in the intro....

Further, what criteria was used for the historical events at the bottom of the manual....they seemed like strange choices for "world events".

I could think of several things that might occlude the rather insiginificant evenst that were included...

Not that it matters a great deal...the game seems pretty fun.

I am just curious.

[s_qwert63]

usa has a 200 year history...
most countries in the game have a 1000+ year history.

i would propose making an american nation, made up of indians at first and have very low tech stuff and then turn into the modern day america somehow...

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by s_qwert63
usa has a 200 year history...
most countries in the game have a 1000+ year history.

i would propose making an american nation, made up of indians at first and have very low tech stuff and then turn into the modern day america somehow...

That wouldn't make much sense, as modern American civilization is an offshoot of Europe, and is not a continuation of Native American culture in the slightest (although we did pilfer some Amerind legal ideas). We conquered and pushed aside the Native Americans, they didn't evolve into us. It should be treated as a separate culture.

It is interesting that the Americans aren't in the game, though. Most civ games have them, as American impact on modern civilization is so pervasive. Since the game does go into the modern era, I'd think they'd want to include us Yanks!

But, if they are going more by ethnicity of civs rather than nationality, I suppose that makes a difference, although one then has to account for the large number of European civilizations.

[solops]

Originally posted by s_qwert63
usa has a 200 year history...
most countries in the game have a 1000+ year history.

i would propose making an american nation, made up of indians at first and have very low tech stuff and then turn into the modern day america somehow...

The Maya, Inca, Mongols, etc did not last long, they came and went quickly but long ago. I was tickled by the hypothetical modern units for these civilisations. Rome, Greece, etc I understand....longer lived both in power and influnce. Whatever, its all good fun.

[FrustratedPoet]

I'm sure it's possible to make a mod that replaces one of the current civs with America, if that's what floats your boat.

[albiedamned]

Originally posted by solops


The Maya, Inca, Mongols, etc did not last long, they came and went quickly but long ago. I was tickled by the hypothetical modern units for these civilisations. Rome, Greece, etc I understand....longer lived both in power and influnce. Whatever, its all good fun.

The Maya, Incas, and Aztecs all lasted longer than ancient Rome and ancient Greece, even if they were less advanced.

[GodSpawn]

>i would propose making an american nation, made up of indians at first and have very low tech stuff and then turn into the modern day america somehow...

Actually, what should really happen is that the low-tech Indian nation gets invaded and subjudated by the English. Then after a while, it would need to revolt and become the American nation.

[McThrustin]

America not in there? Wait for expansion

I'm sure they'll be adding america and other Nations to the expansion...

[albiedamned]

Originally posted by GodSpawn
>i would propose making an american nation, made up of indians at first and have very low tech stuff and then turn into the modern day america somehow...

Actually, what should really happen is that the low-tech Indian nation gets invaded and subjudated by the English. Then after a while, it would need to revolt and become the American nation.

Brian and Sid already made the game you describe - see my signature.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by albiedamned


The Maya, Incas, and Aztecs all lasted longer than ancient Rome and ancient Greece, even if they were less advanced.

Actually, Aztec civilization didn't begin until c. 1300 AD, and was wiped out by Cortes & Co. in the 16th century. The periods of actual "civilization" for the Maya and Inca were also fairly short.

Greek civilization (depending on how you define it) lasted for hundreds of years longer than these, and Roman civilization certainly did, especially if you consider the Eastern Empire as part of Roman civilization.

[Bridger]

USA wasn't in AoK, why wern't people complaining about it then?

[Alex]

As McThrustin said, they'll probably add the USA in the future expansion pack for the game. They had to leave something out of the game in order to promote the expansion, after all...

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Bridger
USA wasn't in AoK, why wern't people complaining about it then?

UH, think of the time perioed AoK encompassed...

[wilebill]

Americans ... no ... no ... boring ... humdrum ...

I propose instead Texans!

[solops]

Originally posted by wilebill
Americans ... no ... no ... boring ... humdrum ...

I propose instead Texans!

YEEEEHAAHH!! Best idea in the forums!