Is anyone getting attacked by the AI?

[Vince278]

Wonder if the AI is forcing troop ship production on non-player races as well. That would be kinda wasteful considering they don't know how to use them.

[Booya2020]

The Ithkul in my most recent game invaded my planet. It wasn't anything pitiful either. It was well over 1200 troops, 300 mobils and I forget how many support units. The sad part about this is they used all that on a brand new world. It only had 15 militia to fight it off lol. I'd like to see that used against a homeworld. Thousands of troops engaging thousands of troops. Talk about an epic ground battle. How many turns would that take? Oh and btw I was playing on easy.

[habadacus]

OMG I think you're right!!! I've been too busy grumbling about the ship design screen and the AI build queue to even notice, but I too have never had the AI do anything but blockade my planets. He did build some decent fleets, but never took one of my worlds. Plus I'm still plodding through my first game on easy, and it does appear that the difficulties are reversed. I'm way behind on tech, but I have no racial tech disadvantage, and own a good piece of the galaxy. I'd say that maybe I haven't been building the tech infrastructure of my worlds, but then again, you never get to do that in this game anyway, this wonderfully advanced AI is supposed to handle that for you. So mad right now I can't think straight. Time to power down and read a good book before I pop.

[Ankh]

Uppdate:

Iv'e tried one game REALLY trying to get killed. And the results are very disturbing. This game is in serious trouble and I doubt it can be saved with this horrible AI, look at this.

- Ankhs Operation Getting Eliminated -


Settings:

Diff: Impossible
Starlanes: Long-Lots (So they can attack me easier)
Galaxy: Small
CPU Players: 4 (so they dont fight eachother to much)
Race: Silicoids (dont need food so hard to blocade)


Strategy:

1. Making all ships obselete exept Colony Ships.
2. Set "All planets priority: Mining"
3. Scout around with scouts untill they get killed
4. Turn AI Colonisation ON
5. Disband starting system ships
6. Press "END TURN"
7. Declaring War with all races met so far, Goto 6.

Its a killer strategy isnt it .

Results:

Turn: 100
Planets: 7
Largest Enemy Orbiting Fleet: 3
Planets Invaded: 0

One Hundered turns passed with constant war and not a SINGLE starship to be able to defend my colonies. So far nothing. 1 Fleet orbiting, doing nothing.

Turn: 156
Planets: 9!!!
Largest Enemy Orbiting Fleet: 9
Planets Invaded: 0

On this turn the AI launches a ground assoult on a newly created world. I look in awe as the AI ground force (1 Mobile) fight against mine (1 Militia). The AI wins and I have finally lost my first world. It was a new colony only a few turns old but anyway it counts.

Turn: 250+
Planets: 8
Largest Enemy Orbiting Fleet: 17
Planets Invaded: 1

Nothing is happening, im still alive Even though I TRIED so hard getting killed. Maybe they should change the rules to: first player getting eliminated wins. Because its much harder getting eliminated then winning in this game. Exits Moo3.


Result: If I can survive on the hardest difficulty for 250+ turns without building a SINGLE starship on a small map then their's something really wrong with this game. Im sorry but Moo3 is flawed beyond all recognition.

Sorry folks

Try it yourself you'll be amazed how weak the AI is.

[Ankh]

Hmm maybe the diff is reversed somehow, since ppl posting are actually GETTING ATTACKED, wow must be an experience.

I'll retry my test on "easy" .

[Trifna]

Someone, test the same thing but build a little fleet that stays home or something. Would you bet that the AI is attacking proportionally to the forces you have or something like that?...

And of course, could a few persons other than Ankh test this thing so we get more than one source?

[CharlesBHoff]

It too soon to say for sure. May-be their can patch the computer player AI to fix this. Game company are in a trickly fix make than game impossible for a player to win no matter
what he does, example: Star Reach by Interplay, the player lose interest in the game he or she cannot win.

[Todd Hawks]

I'd like to mention that the AI (according to some spreadsheet files) tries to build the size of his fleet in comparison (to yours?). That means that if you don't have any ships, the AI maybe doesn't see reasons to build a lot itself.

BUT: There are other AI races and it shouldn't just take your fleet size into consideration (and maybe it doesn't).

Another BUT: Still it should be able to launch ground attacks.

And a last BUT: Even when having a fleet yourself, the AI seems to be absolutely unable to attack you.
Meaning I don't want to defend the AI at all (QS: FIX IT!), I just want to point out that your test may be a little bit off.

[Vince278]

Sounds like they spent alot of time developing and testing multi-player and very little time on single player. I'm sure not getting attacked isn't an issue in multiplayer.

[AIL]

Originally posted by CharlesBHoff
the player lose interest in the game he or she cannot win.

That might be true... But I also loose interest in a game I cannot loose! And that's what moo3 is at the moment!

However, i'll also check this reversed difficulty theory! My last hope before a patch!

[ashbery]

I cant believe that a game with the great ground combat like moo3 wont ever be used by the A.I.

[LitleftofMentar]

I have been playing on easy 2 arm large and few star lanes. I don't know about the invading part, but I do know them orion suck They like to send out a massive fleet and kill my planets in one shot Come to think about it, none of the empires I am at war with ever try to invade, and if they do,I usually have a tf there to take their tf out. Anyways, this game is much better than MoO2

[Unconquered]

You are insane LitLeftofMentar... How can you rant like that and say the game is better than MoO2. That is absolute nonsense. Your statements don't even agree with themselves.

[Cookie Monster]

So what's the latest word?

Is it true that the AI doesn't invade your planets?

For the developers to delay and delay and delay releasing Moo3 only to have a problem like this slip through is absolutely unacceptable. That is poor business. What on earth did they spend their time on then?

The computer gaming industry is getting to the point where it is not worth it for the customer to waste his money on buying games. If computer gaming companies cannot produce nearly bug free games out of the box then they are a bunch of muppets who donot deserve my hard earned cash. Imagine buying a home appliance, a new car, etc. and having the manufacturer tell you that don't use it but hold onto your purchase. We will issue a fix for you in about a month. We are sorry for this and realize that before we release a product to market it should work. But you know what? You (the customer) are all a bunch of losers and all we want from you is your money. bwahaahahahah

I say bullocks!!!!!!! F them and their evil greed.

I'm sticking to console gaming because atleast console games work right out of the box.

[Hierophant]

It IS invading your planet, but only VERY rarely. Not even a slightest thread.

I for myself have jet to see it invading a planet of mine (which are not well defended, planetray defence when the AI builds it and thats it).