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  • #16
    I use preorder rarely, only when they offer a special deal like AoW2 for 29 bucks.

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    • #17
      Is it worth it? You save a couple of bucks but take a risk of buying yourself a complete lemon... At least if you wait a few days after the release, you'll get a decent feeling for if it's worth your while by listing in here and elsewhere what other gamers think.
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      • #18
        So far AoW2 is a lemon for me, but any game I really enjoyed like AoW1, I will jump on the sequel and take my lumps. Just like Moo3, I am buying it even if everyone on earth says it stinks unless they ask $59.99 for it like Warcraft3. In that case I will rebel and wait for it to go on sale. I just refuse to pay that much.

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        • #19
          This doesn't bode well
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          • #20
            Or else it does. Not wanting to release an unfinshed game is great, in itself. It's just when you start thinking about what kind of pressure they're now operating under over at QS that you start to worry.
            "The number of political murders was a little under one million (800,000 - 900,000)." - chegitz guevara on the history of the USSR.
            "I think the real figures probably are about a million or less." - David Irving on the number of Holocaust victims.

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            • #21
              A game that keeps slipping usually have some kind of major issues that's unresolved, which is bad considering that they were about to punish the game.

              This is twice as bad given that IG has a tendency to rush games out, which means that if a game can be pushed out of the door, IG will try to do so.

              Combined, this hints at a very big problem with the game itself.
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              (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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              • #22
                If you look at the trends on gaming sites like GameSpot, you see that a Publisher has a FIRM release date set AT LEAST 2 months in advance of it hitting the shelves. Given all the speculation here, and my pesonal observation on posted release dates; I am conccened that not all is well for the MOO3 project.

                Of course nothing would make me more happy than to see a well polished game for September so I will cross my fingers and hope for the best

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                • #23
                  well the developer has a firm release date on the official site since june
                  so....
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by vmxa1
                    So far AoW2 is a lemon for me, but any game I really enjoyed like AoW1, I will jump on the sequel and take my lumps. Just like Moo3, I am buying it even if everyone on earth says it stinks unless they ask $59.99 for it like Warcraft3. In that case I will rebel and wait for it to go on sale. I just refuse to pay that much.
                    Vmxa1,

                    Yeah I could not believe the price on Warcraft3 and Neverwind Nights. Do they really think that their game is that good? And if it is, wouldn't they make more on a cheaper price and more units sold?

                    Also, I'm really bummed by the recent development in the Moo3 story. This was the one game that I was looking forward to playing this year.

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                    • #25
                      I can't understand how new releases can be so expensive in the USA. Over here, WC3 was $39 on release (not that I bought it, it ain't my cuppa) and Neverwinter Nights was $45 - and it's worth every cent.

                      I don't think that $100 is too much for a solid game, btw. I'd happily pay that for games I play for years, such as Moo2, SMAC and MoM. At those prices, however, pre-ordering would be even more out of the question
                      "The number of political murders was a little under one million (800,000 - 900,000)." - chegitz guevara on the history of the USSR.
                      "I think the real figures probably are about a million or less." - David Irving on the number of Holocaust victims.

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                      • #26
                        Yeah,

                        Those are the standard prices. But in a few weeks there will be sales and we can actually get them for those prices. It'll be a long time before I buy WC3, just do not like the RTS clickfests. I bought Starcraft when I got down to $15, but only kept my interest for a few days. I cannot imagine that WC3 is that much better.
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                        • #27
                          I wouldnt read anything (either positive or negative) into the fact that a game keeps getting delayed.

                          For every Daikatana there's a Half-Life.

                          Actually thats not true : for every 50 Daikatanas theres a Half-Life. (wish it was true though).

                          The point is though, there are just as many bad games released on-time as there are which are delayed repeatedly, and the same thing goes for good games.

                          Erm.... I *think* i may have got my point across.... maybe....
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                          them personally, to their faces, and this is what annoys me.

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                          • #28
                            It is not a question of weither WC3 or any game is worth the price. It is that I will not pay extra just because it is Blizzard. It is not like there are not a lot of good games out now. They are not concerned about how many they will sell as they have seen the sales will still be very high at what ever price they ask. I just feel they are trying to stick it to me and I am not going for it.
                            Last edited by vmxa1; August 7, 2002, 15:51.

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                            • #29
                              I agree....I might pick-up WC3 when it gets below $20, but I know that I'll be disappointed.
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                              • #30
                                Several thoughts. Regarding the high initial prices of recent games (e.g., Warcraft III): they will sell more at a lower price--just as soon as they finish selling as many as they can at the higher price. Regarding the current state of the MoO3 project and the repeated delays: I have long speculated that the game was just plain "no fun" with many of the concepts that had been part of the design for a very long time, and I would further speculate that they are now trying to figure out how to reintroduce the "fun" element. And let's face it: "fun" is not a given in any game, and it may not even be possible to "introduce fun" at this late stage!

                                Just my two cents worth.

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