Discussion about Constitution

[Gilgamensch]

I opened this thread that we can start some brainstorming about the constitution (connie).

It is mainly to collect ideas from everyone hear about the government, how we shall run it, which kind of elections, how often and so on.

For example:

President: Responsible for running the game. (elected once per month)

Minister of Defence: Responsible for ship-creation and distribution.
Minister of Internal Affairs: Responsible for Building Queues and troop transports.
Minister of External Affairs: Responsible for diplomacy, trade spying

All of them also elected once per month.

A Court to oversee election and any issues in general. (not sure how many members though).

[Harry Seldon]

Three members for court to avoid any favoritism. Should we have a finance minister as well? Someone to control interest rates, spending principles, and budgeting/building reserves?

[Whoha]

Viceroys :P

Internal Affairs could handle tax rates,spending,infrastructure,etc.

Defense can handle Ship designs(and requests to build ships),exploration,war.

Can't think of anything else to tack onto External Affairs, diplomacy covers a great deal of ground as does spying, counter spying,sabotage,etc. The defense ministry and External Affairs could of course request technology research efforts, but should Internal Affairs direct those, or should the President?

so we have 3 departments apart from the court and President, and each department has people in it.

[Gilgamensch]

Another thing (before I forget),

shall we play turnthreads or online discussion while playing?

Research........ I completly forgotten, the most important one...... I think we could either leave for the President or Internal Affairs....

[Harry Seldon]

Research is important enough to warrant its own department but isn't that something we'd want to vote on as a group or would we want to allow our elected officials to decide this on their own?

[Gilgamensch]

It will be decided upon our conny, so if we say, we leave it to the official so it be...... if we say it has to be voted upon, so it be.......

It is a DG, so it is us deciding.

But I don't see it necessary to have it's own department, we might be running out of people...........

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

I think the Minister of Defense should be in charge of the military and their movement but NOT ship design. Lets have the citizens create the ship designs like defense contractors.

[Whoha]

requests for ship classes then

[Harry Seldon]

I like having the elected officials deciding on issues when possible, else why elect them in the first place?

[Gilgamensch]

Only as an idea:

The MoD (Minister of Denfence) is responsible about the design, but has to poll the citizens about it, meaning starting a thread, asking for suggestions or already placing suggestions and then with a poll we 'verify' the design.

[Harry Seldon]

If we did that, how would defense contractors come into play? MoD would poll the contractors then the populace votes between the top two or three designs?

[Gilgamensch]

Would be a possible idea.

the next posts are some ideas for our DG.

[Gilgamensch]

I think we should have something like the following as a pre-emble:


Article I: Bill of Rights


1. Any person who is registered to participate in this Democracy Game in the MoO2 Democracy Game is considered a Citizen. No person shall be denied the right to become a Citizen.

2. No Citizen shall ever be in any poll denied the right to vote and to keep this vote private. No Citizen shall ever be forced to vote in any poll.

3. Freedom of speech and the right to associate into any form of organization shall not be denied unless it violates Apolyton rules.

4. No citizen may be punished in any way without the consent of the Court. Still no one shall be banned permanently from participating in the Democracy Game, excluding those who are permanently banned from Apolyton. Note that people may still be banned for any amount of time, as long as it is not permanent.

5. The government may not knowingly hide information or give false information to the people. Therefore all citizens shall have access to the saved games. However, no Citizen shall ever 'play ahead'.


Remarks:
Registration: How shall we do it? Just a thread every month/permanent where citizens have to register?

[Gilgamensch]

Officials:
We need for sure the Pres.

A MoD (Minister of Defence)
A MoIA (Minister of Internal Affairs)
A MoEA (Minister of Externel Affairs)
A Judge (or three judges?)

MoD:

responsible for ship movement
request's new designs for ships

MoIA:

tax-rate
spending for rush buy
build-queues
moving of farmers/workers/scientist

MoEA:

Diplomacy
Espionage
Sabotage
spending of money for deals

President:

playing the game
Science (to be polled about and decided by the citizens)
final approval of all money-spending
Heros

Judge(s):

overlooking everything.

[Harry Seldon]

Judges should be available to settle disputes between citizens. For registration, we should keep a thread at first. If there's enough interest in playing then we can lobby for either a civ group or a private forum. We may be able to combine the MOIA and MOEA at first until we see how much management is involved and how many people are going to participate.