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  • Will There Be Anyone Who Cares

    A second code patch is announced: Second Code Patch Economics for NEXT YEAR!

    I wonder if there will be anyone who still gives a rat's arse.

    Here it is May 29 and still the first code patch is having bugs approved for a patch that was promised during May.

    I'll be long past caring about MOO3 by then.

    edited. had oral surgery yesterday AM and was calendrically challenged.
    Last edited by PaulNAdhe; May 30, 2003, 23:26.
    A dictatorship wouldn't be so bad. As long as I'm the dictator. G. W. Bush

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    perhaps they will make a add on or expansion pack and fix many things. but i am starting not to care anymore. Waited so long for this game--it has problems, and now its going to be up to 4-6 months before a patch. LOL--to late to return my game---hell the trade in value at EB is like 5 dollars LOL.

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    • #3
      I hope the game will be playable after the first patch. And yes, you have a point saying that there might never be another patch. No income - no patch.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by PaulNAdhe

        Here it is June 29 and still the first code patch is having bugs approved for a patch that was promised during June.
        Not to be picky or anything but I think it's still May.

        On the other hand, it may be the end of June before we get the first code patch!

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        • #5
          Thats no announcement, thats just someone discussing the possibilities. Atari clearly aren't trying to save the game for the sake of improving their or its reputation otherwise funds would have been available to get code patches done fast and at least the most critical bug fixes released to the public before the criticism grew too loud.

          Frankly I simply don't understand the logic of contemplating a second patch for a year after release. The game will either be playable as it stands or abandoned by then. 9-12 months after the original we should be getting an expansion pack if anything at all. It sounds like a wistful hope from those unwilling to quash the remaining fans. "Think what we could have done if only there had been a second patch..."
          To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection.
          H.Poincaré

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          • #6
            CTP2, anyone?
            I watched you fall. I think I pushed.

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            • #7
              It simple

              Will paying lip service to a second patch deceive a few more fence sitters into paying for this turkey?

              That's why the discuss the "way far in the future" patch.

              Or at least keep a few people from taking it back until they forget where the put the CD (under a drink probably).

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              • #8
                this pisses me off

                moo3 is buggy as hell

                and galctic civilizations is too lame to be to playable (it is ugly as warcraft2)...

                this might ba the death of sci-fi TBS

                cheers

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                • #9
                  Whether there will be anyone who cares all depends on the first code patch. If I still find MOO3 unplayable after this first, that's pretty much it for me, especially if it'll take half a year to get the next one.

                  Of course, I'm pretty skeptical there will actually be a second code patch, if they're setting the date so far in the future. Atari and/or QS is bound to cut what funding MOO3 has by then, especially if sales don't pick up after the first patch. This very well might be the death of MOO3... I don't know about sci-fi TBS, though. statusperfect, if your only complaint about GalCiv is graphics, I think I might give it a try; sounds better than MOO3.

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                  • #10
                    I will have to say that I find the proposition of a second patch dubious at best! With the retail price at 50% of it’s original value (and several stores in my area selling remaining stocks at $9.95, with no plans to replenish said stocks), what sales figures are they talking about? After all the ill will IG/Atari and QS have managed to generate in only 3 months, I think they should be more worried if they will still exist by February 2004!
                    Kahn

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                    • #11
                      How many of you ever did any programming on your computer at all. Bugs fixing isnot as easy as you think. And when bugs fixing for than patch the patch cannot created more bugs than it fix.
                      By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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                      • #12
                        I do! That's how I make a living (along with being the resident JOAT (Jack-of-all-trades) for my organization). I guess I may be a little harder on people in my trade than most, comes from the fact that if I don't do my job right, people die. No pressure, right?
                        Kahn

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                        • #13
                          I've been making my living for the past 20+ years from programming. If I turned out anything this buggy, I'd be looking for a new job the next week.

                          Face it Charles, this is the worst major game that has ever been produced. Forget about the Deer Hunter & Bass Hunter crap. This was a major game with a huge and devoted following. To produce such crap is unforgivable.
                          A dictatorship wouldn't be so bad. As long as I'm the dictator. G. W. Bush

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by PaulNAdhe
                            I've been making my living for the past 20+ years from programming. If I turned out anything this buggy, I'd be looking for a new job the next week.

                            Face it Charles, this is the worst major game that has ever been produced. Forget about the Deer Hunter & Bass Hunter crap. This was a major game with a huge and devoted following. To produce such crap is unforgivable.
                            There is more video games being release compare to computer games at EB. First it can take between 4 and 6 years to release than new computer game and them it must
                            work with all the different sounds and video cards out there.

                            While than video game can be finish in one year time without worrying about different sounds and video cards as all video game system have only one built in sound and video card system.

                            QuickSilver inhert this bad undoc code from the many different companys that work on it before they would have being better off starting all over from the begging instead of useing the flaw code they inhert.
                            By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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                            • #15
                              Small nit...

                              QS didn't inherit the code from anyone else, THEY were the people who have been working on this game from the beginning. The different companies were all the different publishers, not developers.

                              The design was too grand for what QS could do with all the shake-up's. The release state of the game are wholly QS fault, but the *finished* state of the game falls in the lap of IG since they are the publishers. If the game ends up a steaming pile because only one patch was released and IG wouldn't provide the QA staff needed for additional patches (assuming QS doesn't drop this whole thing shortly) then QS isn't wholly to blame.

                              The game is very stable, and that's what they were aiming for for release. Too bad they weren't aiming for a more fun game, but here's hoping the code patch will add enough stuff (like being able to lock the MBQ) to make the investment worthwhile.

                              Heck, if they hurry and release the code patch I might buy another copy or two myself as long as Amazon is giving it away and since sales after the code patch are apparently what IG are looking for.

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