New Fallout game announced

[Asher]

I'm going to go ahead and assert in all likelihood that the people that've never had Fallout 3 crash on them, never played Fallout 3.

Bethesda is known for buggy software, and this is no exception.

Fact: There's over a million hits if you search for fallout 3 crash on Google.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=4eu&q=fallout+3+crashes&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=

It's very clear a great many people have found the game very unstable: http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...readid=2288559

It looks like one of the biggest culprits is a quad-core or higher CPU, which the game handles incorrectly due to presumably some scheduling bug. One thread reaches a bad state and the whole thing crashes down.

[DrSpike]

Just get the 360 version - I know it's painful to shell out again for a game but it's pretty cheap now and so worth it.

[Asher]

Too many other things to play. Bad impression all around from Fallout 3 (even without the crashes, the one time I spent a few hours playing it I got the game in a bad save state such that every time I respawned I died also). Maybe years from now when it's abandonware. But this boat has sailed.

Bethesda needs to be punished for rubbish quality, not rewarded with double purchases.

[DrSpike]

You're just sore because the villagers in Megaton kicked your ass. But it's your loss.

[Asher]

Not from what I have seen. It seems highly overrated to me, even assuming Bethesda could hire competent developers to make a stable game.

[Lemmy]

Also read somewhere (forgot where :/) that Obsidian came up with the main idea for this game, which Bethesda apparently liked enough to let them develop a game based on it. This may mean more freedom for Obsidian with regards to story and gameplay. Although big changes to gameplay may be limited if they're using the same engine as Fallout 3, which is likely given the short development time remaining.

My guess is New Vegas will be a glorified mod, with the advantage for Obisdian of having the Bethesda developers on speed-dial in case they need minor gameplay changes.

[Unimatrix11]

It looks like one of the biggest culprits is a quad-core or higher CPU, which the game handles incorrectly due to presumably some scheduling bug. One thread reaches a bad state and the whole thing crashes down.

Thats why my single core rig only had it crash like half a dozen of times total, i guess

Asher: Yeah, you didnt miss that much, really. Graphics and atmosphere (i love GN-Radio and the ´president´ is funny) were really good, but the game itself quite simplistic IMO. So simplistic in fact, it sometimes even managed to torpedo the atmo - like a town being mentioned in the radio, that literally consists out of 5 inhabitants. As could have been expected by the experience of Oblivion, Fallout3 turned out to be very consoley gameplay wise - and i like my RPGs not to be consoley at all. You know, when in a quest you actually have to figure out where to go next yourself, instead of being told so many times, that even a ****** (no offence meant to anyone) would get it and then get the green arrow on top of it, in case you are on bad pills and still didnt get it. A ´quest´ these days is more like a ´trip´, it seems - you always know where to go and what to do next (which kinda defeats the very meaning of the word ´quest´, doesnt it?) To sum it up: As happens so often these days, superb presentation for a pretty flat game.

[lord of the mark]

I'm going to go ahead and assert in all likelihood that the people that've never had Fallout 3 crash on them, never played Fallout 3.

Bethesda is known for buggy software, and this is no exception.

Fact: There's over a million hits if you search for fallout 3 crash on Google.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=4eu&q=fallout+3+crashes&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=

A most fascinating metric

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=halo+3+crashes&btnG=Search&meta=

[Asher]

Do you do anything but follow me around these days and try to bore me to death?

If I were a lesser man such as yourself, I'd complain to the mods that you were persecuting me for my religion and stalking me.

Honestly, dude, **** off. You don't play game consoles, yet you constantly go into the console threads and reply to my posts without EVER adding anything (not even being FUNNY, just ANNOYING). Then you come into other threads like this, when you've clearly never played the game and probably won't for 10 years and you again reply to one of my posts trying to do nothing but provoke me.

I wouldn't mind but you endlessly ****ing ***** to the mods about how I supposedly stalk you. Is this some kind of pathetic schoolgirl crush or are you just a total hypocrit?

[lord of the mark]

Do you do anything but follow me around these days and try to bore me to death?

If I were a lesser man such as yourself, I'd complain to the mods that you were persecuting me for my religion and stalking me.

Halo 3 outsold Fallout 3 by 4:1 last I checked. Suck that metric. Once you're done, divide the google results by that number and see what you get. See if you can think about 80 or 90 years to elementary school and do that basic math.

So you're saying Halo is 1/4 as sucky as FO3? I guess you miss my point, I wasn't so much focused on the exact number, as I was dubious that google hits on "crash" and a game name really told us anything. Folks like to complain for all kinds of reasons, and unless you go through all million hits (or at least a random sampling of sufficient size), you have no idea what it means.

Of course I didn't know you had posted in this thread. I came here to check the XCOM thread, looked to see what was going on in console wars, and thought I would check what was being said about FO.

[Asher]

So you're saying Halo is 1/4 as sucky as FO3? I guess you miss my point

No, LOTM, you missed the point.

Of course I didn't know you had posted in this thread. I came here to check the XCOM thread, looked to see what was going on in console wars, and thought I would check what was being said about FO.

It's funny you mostly hang out here to reply to my posts, when you NEVER, EVER have anything to contribute to the thread.

Honestly dude, it's ****ing creepy. Stop it.

[lord of the mark]

Honestly, dude, **** off. You don't play game consoles,

As I have told you a thousand times, I find the business strategies and market issues in the console market interesting. And I have as much right to simply point out that someone else's post lacks substance as you do.

[Asher]

As I have told you a thousand times, I find the business strategies and market issues in the console market interesting.

Then grow a pair and discuss them. Do some research and come with arguments.

All you've done for months is spam and provoke. Then you cry and ***** to the mods that I'm giving you a hard time when you push my buttons and I smack you down. Man up or get out.

[lord of the mark]

No, LOTM, you missed the point.

Honestly dude, it's ****ing creepy. Stop it.

Your insulting people and bullying of any person, opinion or company you dislike is creepy. Stop it.

[Asher]

What is perhaps your most annoying trait is how you are completely oblivious to the memes everyone else here knows about.

For instance (AND THIS MAY BE RELEVANT IN THIS THREAD), the "FACT: " meme.