Let's Talk About EVE Online

[Asher]

I've got a "come back!" 5-day trial I can redeem and I've been thinking about it anyway. I feel I "mis-played" the game my first time around by focusing on solo missions and the like rather than PVP.

I've got a character still on the server with a few months worth of learning (including stuff like battleships). Just no money.

How do the experienced EVE players here recommend one gets into the PvP scene?

[DrSpike]

All I remember from the last Eve thread is Skanky and Con trying (unsuccesfully of course) to convince me that being able to watch TV whilst playing was good gameplay.

[Quillan]

Well, there's piracy for one. Just head out into low-sec and fight to your hearts content. Stay away from stations or jump gates, as the sentry guns will still target the aggressor; you just don't have Concord showing up.

Heading out to null-sec is a possibility too. You're almost guaranteed a fight that way, probably against a mass of whoever owns the system.

Joining a null-sec alliance would be a good start, or signing up for Faction War. Personally, I don't do any PvP in EVE yet. I'm still learning the industrial side of things. I do go out into low-sec regularly, but that's in a covert ops frigate with a cloaking device.

[DaShi]

Is that war stuff going on? You can join the military of one of the nations there and fight in the war.

[Zero]

All I remember from the last Eve thread is Skanky and Con trying (unsuccesfully of course) to convince me that being able to watch TV whilst playing was good gameplay.

i did that when i played wow.

[DrSpike]

Then WoW must have good gameplay too.

[Unimatrix11]

Seriously, i have been on a 14-day-trial-account about two years ago (i think). I liked it a lot. Then i invited a friend over, so we could play it together. We took some drugs, to enhance the immersion. That didnt quite work out . Instead the illusion got shattered like a thin window by a massive brick. When my buddy was mining his first asteroid, he was like ´wtf, am i doing here? milking a cow? I mean that is a cow in front of my ship, right?´ - we laughed so hard and i couldnt believe, that i was about to spend 25€ each month for such a waste of time.

[Jon Miller]

I think EVE is best when it consists of a mix of several components:

Comraderie - important for all MMOs I feel, basically you like who you are doing things with
Corporation - EVE is hugely based on what the corporations and alliances and power blocks do, it requires a lot more organization then any other MMO, you can get a taste of it by being part of a small corp or the faction militias (although if you ignore them, you don't get much)
PvP - while PvP isn't perfect in EVE, that is where all the focus on development is

Not needed for everyone:
Trade & Production - the sandbox nature of EVE is that people build and trade like in a real society, as such this is both an important aspect of PvP as well as one of the draws for the game.... this isn't for everyone but is a valid and important reason to play

JM

[conmcb25]

All I remember from the last Eve thread is Skanky and Con trying (unsuccesfully of course) to convince me that being able to watch TV whilst playing was good gameplay.

Quite cheeky

As usual you completely and totally convuluted the point I was trying to make.

[conmcb25]

I've got a "come back!" 5-day trial I can redeem and I've been thinking about it anyway. I feel I "mis-played" the game my first time around by focusing on solo missions and the like rather than PVP.

I've got a character still on the server with a few months worth of learning (including stuff like battleships). Just no money.

How do the experienced EVE players here recommend one gets into the PvP scene?

I thought EVE was one of the crappiest MMO's you have ever played? And not really an MMO at all? Since it wasn't a WoW clone

If you are serious (and I won't spend a lot of time now because I don't think you are )

You have to make a choice IMHO.

To Pirate or Not to Pirate.

Pirates get PvP, but unless you constantly mission grind or kill NPC's in 0.0 (referred to as "ratting") your sec status is going to plummet and you lose access to High Sec Empire, and you also lose your access to a lot of good corps that PvP but don't pirate. They won't even talk to you because you used to pirate. Sec Status can be repaired but it takes a LOT of work.

There are also a lot of corps that are anti pirate and they PvP plenty as well. This route IMHO leaves you a lot more options, because you won't necessarily be hurting your sec status as much.

All sec status worries of course go away if you are in 0.0 where you can kill who you want, when you want and there is no sec status change because Concord is not there.

But to be honest you are going to have a hard time PvP-ing whitout ISK. So you either have to make isk to support a PvP habit or buy GTC's and sell them for ISK. Or have a high SP player that can make ISK to support a PvP toon. The last being of course something you don't have.

No ISK means PvP is going to be hard. No serious or even semi serious PvP-er using T1 modules. The vast majority go for best named or T2, which of course cost ISK, and training time. now don't get
me wrong PvP can be done in T1 ships, swarms of T1 frigates have taken on successfully larger better fit ships. But be prepared to lose that frigate a lot and you of course need to have lots of friends for a proper frigate swarm.

The third option in Faction Warfare. Thats a noobs PvP heaven, and at least in the Caldari-Gallente fight (what Im familiar with), there are routinely blobs sent out on each side on a regular basis that try to kill the opposing blob. That might be a good place to start.

But what I really think you should do is join EVE University. They will teach you various aspects of the game, and they will take you out PvP-ing. After 6 months of that many a good corp will look favorabily on that experience and snap you up in a heartbeat.

Thats my advice, but if you think you are going to go out and get some good PvP with only 5 days to play on your account, you are basically fooling yourself. You are going to have a hard time keeping yourself alive much less killing something.

What is your toons in game name?

Have you already taken the plunge?

And just remember this is EVE Online there is no "best way" to get into PvP, there are numerous ways and numerous options only limited by the ships you can fly, how many friends you have, and your imagination.

[DrSpike]

Quite cheeky

As usual you completely and totally convuluted the point I was trying to make.

Perhaps you should have been clearer.

[Jon Miller]

So other Eve players, will you fly T3 ships?

I will, but rarely. But I rarely fly T1 hulls...

JM

[Jon Miller]

So other Eve players, will you fly T3 ships?

I will, but rarely. But I rarely fly T1 hulls...

JM

[Jon Miller]

So other Eve players, will you fly T3 ships?

I will, but rarely. But I rarely fly T1 hulls...

JM

[snoopy369]

Wow, a triple post each at least 20 minutes apart... impressive, Jon, impressive.