FG: NW 41 - Return to War

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Skanky Burns

Sorry Spikie, this is the way deflectors work. The nukes do eventually find a good home.

That's what I am arguing - there can be no situation where there are 'ping pong' nukes with nukes bouncing between players forever. That would be silly, so we updated the rules on this point early on.

However, if you do it the way LS described early on then how do you decide whether the deflected nukes are odd or even when you are attacked simultaneously by two or more players? This is why I think there was precedent for using my deflectors work once per attack per player approach, i.e. if I have deflected to Shiva he can deflect half of those back to me, where they hit.

[Spaced Cowboy]

Here is how it works spikey.

Say I launch 4 nukes on you, and you deflect to LS, who is also defleting to you.

Nukes 1 and 3 are deflected, but 2 and 4 hit you.

Nukes 2 and 4 (although for ls they are now nukes 1 and 2) go to LS, again 2 is deflected, but 4 hits.

Nuke 4 goes back to you, but now it is the 5th nuke you face, and it is deflected back to LS.

Where it becomes the third nuke that he faces, which is deflected back to you...

Where it becomes the 6th nuke that you face, and it hits.

Hence the term ping-pong nukes.

They do not bounce forever as cumulative totals are used to determine hits.

[DrSpike]

You ignored my point - if LS faces multiple attacks it's far from clear.

Whereas with the system I outlined above it gives the same answer as yours (3 nukes hit me, 1 LS) but is far more coherent.

[LordShiva]

If all three of us are destroyed on teh same turn, it's a tie, right?

[Jonny]

Originally posted by LordShiva
If all three of us are destroyed on teh same turn, it's a tie, right?

If you're all destroyed on the same turn, everybody loses. Does that count as a tie? Depends on your viewpoint, I guess.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Jonny
If you're all destroyed on the same turn, everybody loses. Does that count as a tie?

[DrSpike]

Sent.

[Jonny]

Turn 16 - Much Ado 'bout Nothin'

DrSpike again tried to build a new city. Spaced Cowboy again nuked his newly built city before the sun had set behind it even once.

Spaced Cowboy again sent a nuke to LordShiva as well. Lord S, as his remaining followers now styled him, hid in his bunker, so the nuke did nothing.

In short, nothing changed. At all.

The World As It Stands, Turn 16

Name
Cities
Snoopy369
Wasted
EPW
Wasted
DrSpike
About
Krill
Wasted
Chaunk
Wasted
Whoha
Wasted
LordShiva
Gramphos
Spaced Cowboy
Sign, Me

24 hours. And maybe do something useful this time?

[EPW]

This would be more exciting if I was still alive.

[Jonny]

Turn 17 - It's a MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD, World

LordShiva and DrSpike had, unsurprisingly, grown tired of Spaced Cowboy's repeated antics. And so it was that they both fired two nukes at him, enough firepower to wipe him off the map twice over. Spaced was well done.

Not, of course, before he had the chance, predictably, to fire one nuke each at Shiva and DrSpike, plenty enough to wipe them off the map too, though only once. No one bothered to use the spies or bunkers they had, so the entire world was turned into nuclear wasteland.


Congratulations! You're all dead.

[EPW]

[LordShiva]

[Krill]

Get in

[DrSpike]

There are no winners in war.

[Krill]

We should play another to get a definitive winner then