just ordered CK

[lord of the mark]

Oh, geez, Robert is still alive at 71, his doofus legit son Roger died, and thank to salic consang the new heir is Roberts grandson, the son of Bohemond, Roberts bastard. Bohemond cant inherit as a bastard, but his son can (I think thats historical mistake, no?) which means Bohemond could end up a vassal to his son, right?

I decided to try to take Naples, a Byz vassal I have a claim on, hoping that Byz wouldnt bother cause they have a war elsewhere. Well I was wrong, theyre killing me, and my grandson in the legit line who was displaced has just rebelled. Rather than play this out, Im going to go back and reload before the Naples war began.

Byz seems maybe just a bit overpowered? Does 1.05 fix that? It reduced Byz's demesne bonus, right?

[Nikolai]

You play without the 1.05 patch? The difference between an unpatched CK and a 1.05 one is like night and day! Even between 1.04 and 1.05 the difference is huge. Do yourself a favour and patch immidiately.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Nikolai
You play without the 1.05 patch? The difference between an unpatched CK and a 1.05 one is like night and day! Even between 1.04 and 1.05 the difference is huge. Do yourself a favour and patch immidiately.

Im playing 1.04a. as shipped.

If I DL 1.05, will that apply to my existing saved game?

[El_Cid]

Originally posted by Nikolai
You play without the 1.05 patch? ..........

Lol! is it that bad?....really? I think I had fun pre-patched CK for a while .

@ LotM
Still i would agree that playing patched is better than not(if you check the readme for the patch you will see there are quite a few errors and bugs it fixes.

As for your saved game after patching I would say start afresh - too many corrections were made in the patch for it not to effect an un-patched saved game in some nasty way.

As for the big BZ i dont know - I'm lucky if I ever get of this damn Island, but they were a huge world power for a long time, and it's always best to leave those alone I find

Your game sounds fun btw

[Nikolai]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


Im playing 1.04a. as shipped.

If I DL 1.05, will that apply to my existing saved game?

It might work, but probably you'll get problems with it. And you'll loose most of the improvements anyhow. But really, 1.05 is so much better that you should switch. And it has some unofficial improvement packs to it on the forums too iirc.

[Nikolai]

Originally posted by El_Cid


Lol! is it that bad?....really? I think I had fun pre-patched CK for a while . Still i would agree that playing patched is better than not(if you check the readme for the patch you will see there are quite a few errors and bugs it fixes.

Oh, it's fun and playable allright, but still not nearly as good as patched. Should be less crashes with 1.05 too.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Nikolai


It might work, but probably you'll get problems with it. And you'll loose most of the improvements anyhow. But really, 1.05 is so much better that you should switch. And it has some unofficial improvement packs to it on the forums too iirc.

Id like to finish out my current game, then.

[Nikolai]

Feel free. It's a fun game anyhow.

DV has got a beta patch that seems to have solved most issues btw. Haven't been able to check yet, as my computer is on service for the fifth time in half a year....

[lord of the mark]

well my games as the De Hautevilles was fun, but it finally got silly in a very 1.04ish way, apparenty.

My 3rd ruler, Andronikos De Hauteville, King of Naples and Duke of Apulia, had expanded the kingdom to include not only all Italy south of the Papal states, half of Sicily, all of Libya, but also 3 provinces in Northern Italy. However he know (around 1145) had a high BB. And he was papal controller, which meant (under 1.04) all his male courtiers had departed to become bishops. He had no Marshal, therefore, and a total martial score of 7. He was in his late 60s, so with James, Duke of Calabria, his son and heir, with a great martial score, and very good court officials, on the way, I decided to stop fighting, focus on building, and set the speed to very fast.

Apparently I overlooked it when James predeceased Andronikos, in 1150. No biggie.

Then Andronikos dies in 1155. And is succeeded by his younger son Panagiotes (or something). Ok, good to go, right? But why, I wonder, was Pan-man so strong as to pass his other brothers under salic consang?

Well, of course because he controlled 3 provinces in the Netherlands, which are now part of the demesne of Naples!!!!

Apparently hed gotten an Archbishopric up there. And hes returned, with the three provinces, as well as his wife and kids.

If I was purely power gaming this would have been terrific I guess, but as I was hanging on to this game more for RP reasons, I decided this was the time to stop, and DL 1.05.

Which I have done, and have started a game as the Knytlings of Denmark.

[Nikolai]

I had a fun game a while ago, as the duke of Saxony. When Germany began to fall apart, I broke free peacefully and promptly pledged to Denmark for RP reasons(I was married to the king's daughter and was his friend(DV feature)). I happily did whatever my friend the king wanted and helped Denmark greatly. Then the king died and his son, who was my enemy because of earlier events, inherited. We did not go well together. So soon I was rebellious and had a claim to the throne. A short civil war later, I was the new king of Denmark. For years I had problems with the Knytlings, which did not like my rule for the most part, but after a few decades that was settled(with much less Knytling vassals.). Then the arch-bishop of Germany(yup, the civil war down there wnet wacko) decided to claim back northern Germany from me. I won, barely, but he didn't want to settle any peace. So I was warring for a long while and didn't come any way. I had won but didn't get peace, not even a white one. So I decided to help the AI and used a cheat to get a modest peace. I do that once in a while when the game doesn't work as it should. But only when I have to of course, there's no fun in constant cheating, especially such an easy game as CK. But then the computer decided to not work on me, so it's on repair and in the mean time the game have got a new beta patch, so I guess I'll start anew as soon as the laptop gets back.

[lord of the mark]

well I'll entertain you with my game then.

So we conquer a whole bunch of Baltic pagan provs. Then the stupid Teutonic Knights want Marienburg, and I let them have it - I do get a claim - and then I attack more baltic pagans, to the TK are at least hemmed in. Too bad my leet steward gets himself captured by pagans, and Im too hard up for cash to ransom him (damn, these are some cool events)

At least Ive still got my bastard son leet Marshall. Ive even exiled one of my sons for bothering me about him too many times.

Then the leet Marshall wants to be generously rewarded, like 120 gold or so, which is about all I have left after these wars. So I go for the B choice, which is to give him like 40 gold.

Next event "your bedchamber opens, 75% chance King Sven dies"
Then "king Sven is dead, King Harald is now King" (or whatever it was)

Very nice, very nice. Though its too bad Harald has such lousy stewardship stats. Hes nice to his bastard brother (the Marshall) though, and this moves Haralds intrigue up a notch, which is handy, since ive now got a pretty considerable demense (despite Sven handing out a couple of Baltic counties before his "accident")

[lord of the mark]

oh well, after waiting all that time to inherit, poor Harald dies after only a couple of years, leaving his 19 YO son Hemming to inherit. Hemmings doing pretty well though, but then im playing on easy

[lord of the mark]

still playing this.

Started a new game as the Piasts (Poland), on Normal difficulty this time, playing 1.05. Still enjoying it.

[Ecthy]

Normans of Apulia

Even better after the patches. Something that bugs me - the game doesn't know a kingdom of Sicily as per history, only one of Naples. In the 1337 scenario there's a kingdom of Sicily anyway, probably upgraded duchy, as avassal of the kingdom of Naples

Now downloading the latest patch for EU2, so I'll soon be playing my first 1066-1953 game :geek: :nolife: :whatwillthegirlfriendsay:

[Nikolai]

The kingdom of Naples was the informal name of the kingdom of Sicily.

See here for more details.