half-life 2 sucks

[Harry Tuttle]

Yeah I don't know Asher. The Halo series doesn't come off as "varied gameplay". I guess momentum can be fun, but I would rather have a game that reflects a plot. The Halo series just came off as a shoot-em-up where the same tricks worked all the time. The Half-Life series pits you against all kinds of problems. I admit that the gravity gun was over used in Half-Life 2 but at least the environment added to the game. The Halo series is all about killing the enemy, which is fun, but I'd like some variation.

[DRoseDARs]

I really wish the organic gravity gun had been given to us to play with in HL2EP2. Sooo much more fun.

[DrSpike]

I think that Halo and HL are both great games, but very different, and it's clear that any comparision between quality is entirely subjective. The attempts of either camp to portray fans of the other negatively are pretty weak in my view.

HL had a great story and great small scale fights, and was a huge step forward for the genre across the piece actually - weapons, opponents, immersion, and so on.

Halo came later and was a smaller step forward, but still introduced a lot with great larger scale fights, and great vehicles that added to gameplay. As has been mentioned, the shield mechanic was also a great innovation.

Both are great games, and I think any FPS fan has to play both and reach their own conclusions as to which edges the other.

In my view (since this post will inevitably generate that question) I would vote for HL. I'd probably take Halo over HL2 though.

[Patroklos]

You have very clearly only played the game on Easy or Normal, Patty.

You would be wrong, though I have not finished the SP campaign on Legendary yet.

So besides extra hit points what else does Legendary add???

Edit: Directed at Patty, can calm down now.

???

[Guynemer]

Just finished Episode 2. Wow. Terrific. The stider/hunter assault was just ****ing intense.

And there were some genuinely shocking moments this time around.

Really looking forward to episode 3.

[kittenOFchaos]

Next episode I don't want to play as weedy Freeman, I want to play as dog

[Riesstiu IV]

This pretty much settles the debate:

[Asher]

The fact that Halo players are playing Halo while HL2 players are creating pictures like that settles the debate, IMO.

[DrSpike]

No, that's an in-game screenshot.

[Riesstiu IV]

Originally posted by Asher
The fact that Halo players are playing Halo while HL2 players are creating pictures like that settles the debate, IMO.

For all you know, it could've been made by a dissatisfied Halo player after handing down the game to his ADD afflicted 13 year old brother.

[Wiglaf]

Riesstiu, you seem like you know something about Half life 2. Can you explain to me why the game has so many arbitrary physics puzzles in an otherwise semi-believable environment? HERE PUT THE 2 CONVENIENTLY LOCATED CANS OF COMPRESSED AIR UNDERNEATH THIS BRIDGE AND YOUR AIRBOAT SHALL BE ABLE TO FLY TO THE NEXT PLATFORM. That was so preposterous and actually defied real physics and made me feel like a woman. Or, how about the epic OH HERE IS AN EXPLODING BARREL, PLEASE ROLL ME DOWN THIS RAMP AND THEN SHOOT ME SO I CAN KILL THESE PLANTS? Where do you get off doing that?

Or my all time favorite: HERE IS A ****ING SEE-SAW, YES A SEE-SAW YOU HEARD ME RIGHT, PLEASE WEIGH DOWN ONE SIDE AND THEN DO A RUNNING JUMP ON THE SEE SAW TO GET TO THE PLATFORM NEARBY. OTHERWISE THERE IS LITERALLY NOWHERE IN THIS CITY FOR YOU TO GO, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

SAY IT WITH ME

WAHT THE ****

[Krill]

Originally posted by DrSpike
No, that's an in-game screenshot.

It'd be cool if it were true

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
Riesstiu, you seem like you know something about Half life 2. Can you explain to me why the game has so many arbitrary physics puzzles in an otherwise semi-believable environment? HERE PUT THE 2 CONVENIENTLY LOCATED CANS OF COMPRESSED AIR UNDERNEATH THIS BRIDGE AND YOUR AIRBOAT SHALL BE ABLE TO FLY TO THE NEXT PLATFORM. That was so preposterous and actually defied real physics and made me feel like a woman. Or, how about the epic OH HERE IS AN EXPLODING BARREL, PLEASE ROLL ME DOWN THIS RAMP AND THEN SHOOT ME SO I CAN KILL THESE PLANTS? Where do you get off doing that?

Or my all time favorite: HERE IS A ****ING SEE-SAW, YES A SEE-SAW YOU HEARD ME RIGHT, PLEASE WEIGH DOWN ONE SIDE AND THEN DO A RUNNING JUMP ON THE SEE SAW TO GET TO THE PLATFORM NEARBY. OTHERWISE THERE IS LITERALLY NOWHERE IN THIS CITY FOR YOU TO GO, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

SAY IT WITH ME

WAHT THE ****

Something you agree with Asher on.

[Riesstiu IV]

Wiglaf, that's an excellent example of nerd rage.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
Riesstiu, you seem like you know something about Half life 2. Can you explain to me why the game has so many arbitrary physics puzzles in an otherwise semi-believable environment? HERE PUT THE 2 CONVENIENTLY LOCATED CANS OF COMPRESSED AIR UNDERNEATH THIS BRIDGE AND YOUR AIRBOAT SHALL BE ABLE TO FLY TO THE NEXT PLATFORM. That was so preposterous and actually defied real physics and made me feel like a woman. Or, how about the epic OH HERE IS AN EXPLODING BARREL, PLEASE ROLL ME DOWN THIS RAMP AND THEN SHOOT ME SO I CAN KILL THESE PLANTS? Where do you get off doing that?

Or my all time favorite: HERE IS A ****ING SEE-SAW, YES A SEE-SAW YOU HEARD ME RIGHT, PLEASE WEIGH DOWN ONE SIDE AND THEN DO A RUNNING JUMP ON THE SEE SAW TO GET TO THE PLATFORM NEARBY. OTHERWISE THERE IS LITERALLY NOWHERE IN THIS CITY FOR YOU TO GO, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

SAY IT WITH ME

WAHT THE ****

This is so true. It's actually why I've got big problems with HL2, it's incredibly linear with lame "puzzles" at the same time.