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  • #16
    Expectations about the playerbase for DDO were more optimistic than turned out to be the case. This is because the game is not that good and has been largely panned, even by D&D fans. It's really very simple - by any sensible yardstick the game is a flop.

    Funny how in the WH40K thread when it suits you you argue that WH40K is more niche than DDO, but will still be a flop!

    And the developers of VG did not have enormous expectations about the likely playerbase - their estimates are in the long VG thread and it is fraction of, say, the WoW playerbase. They always knew they were aiming the game at a certain group of players, and although they did water that down a bit through development, that focus seems to remain. Either way, there isn't strong enough data yet about the playerbase to make a judgment as to whether it has flopped.

    Your definitions of flop seem to me to vary to fit the needs of your current troll.

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    • #17
      The last time I checked subscriptions, DnD were rising month-to-month, which is why I don't consider it a flop.

      WH40K is even more niche than DnD, and their production costs will be higher as they don't seem to be using an existing engine --> flop.
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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      • #18
        I wish LOTR would get a proper video game adaptation LOTR: Online will be a wait and see, since I'm getting conflicting reviews on it.

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        • #19
          Of course no one should be allowed to play a LOTR MMORPG without being able to pass a 50 question quiz on the books.

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          • #20
            People actually read the books?!
            “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
            "Capitalism ho!"

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Vesayen
              This game is the end of Turbine. It is ALL flash, NO content. Turbine had an incredible thing with Asherons Call... not very popular but a good game. AC2 was crap and went under immediatly. DnD online is also unpopular. LOTRO is not goint to keep its player base.... are they going to be able to afford to release a fourth flop in a row, after LOTRO?

              AC was my first MMORPG.
              Me and my friend can spend hours talking about all the fun that was.

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              • #22
                AC was amazing.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DaShi
                  People actually read the books?!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Verto
                    Of course no one should be allowed to play a LOTR MMORPG without being able to pass a 50 question quiz on the books.
                    Oh, hm. I didn't know they'd done a novelization of the movies.

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                    • #25
                      Yeah, but it's not as good. They took too many liberties with the characters.
                      “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                      "Capitalism ho!"

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                      • #26
                        Joke's stale, move along.

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                        • #27
                          Preorder release was last Saturday. I take it you're playing and liking it, Asher?

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                          • #28
                            Yup. As is the SO.
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • #29
                              Do you know how much of a time sink end game is compared to WoW?
                              "Yay Apoc!!!!!!!" - bipolarbear
                              "At least there were some thoughts went into Apocalypse." - Urban Ranger
                              "Apocalype was a great game." - DrSpike
                              "In Apoc, I had one soldier who lasted through the entire game... was pretty cool. I like apoc for that reason, the soldiers are a bit more 'personal'." - General Ludd

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                              • #30
                                Depends what you mean by time sink.

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