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  • #16
    But you agree with the rest of his post?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Jamski
      Well the target audience are 12-15 year old middle-class caucasian males with short attention spans
      I have a hard time understanding why you threw the word "caucasian" in there.

      Are you saying that non-caucasian 12-15 year old males have longer attention spans? Or are you saying that non-caucasian 12-15 year old males are below middle-class?
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      • #18
        Originally posted by DrSpike
        But you agree with the rest of his post?
        Nope, but it's hopeless to argue with someone who doesn't even understand the most basic aspects of the game.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by vovan


          I have a hard time understanding why you threw the word "caucasian" in there.

          Are you saying that non-caucasian 12-15 year old males have longer attention spans? Or are you saying that non-caucasian 12-15 year old males are below middle-class?
          True fact: Shooting games are aimed at white kids, sports games at black kids.

          Whether or not you agree with this being right or wrong, this is how games are marketed.

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          • #20
            EDIT: never mind. You misunderstood what I was saying, and so did I apparently.
            Last edited by vovan; January 14, 2007, 00:04.
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            • #21
              Jam, its not race, its class related.

              flash, i cant recall 1 good game that had graphics as selling point in 2006..... maybe even as far as 05 and 04...

              GoW isnt bad game IMO. but it is defintely a rental game. graphics is gonna phase out eventually, obviously... and gameplay isnt good enough to make game last. but then again thats the trend with all games these days...

              industry gets so caught up releasing the game with good graphics that gameplay design gets overlooked. It's like the developers almost forgot how to make good games these days....
              :-p

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              • #22
                If you guys actually threw out the subconscious nostalgia, you'll see how bad a lot of the games are that you still hold in high regard.
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                • #23
                  There is definitely a rose tinted specs angle as I have argued many times. However it is also hard to deny that there are plenty of games loaded on eye-candy and lacking in any real quality - they aren't mutually exclusive phenomena.

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                  • #24
                    ok explain to me why gameplay of starcraft, warcraft 3, super turbo is bad..... because those games are in my high regards.
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                    • #25
                      starcraft is like 11 yrs old. even then after years of not playing it personally, if i watch a replay of sc, i can enjoy it cause the game is THAT well made. I just watched latest WCG matches and I sat at the edge of the seat watching iloveoov take out julyzerg in final 3rd match.

                      Will GoW be like that say not even 2 yrs from now? i doubt it. i dont think im being biased cause i like starcraft at all. its like comparing chess to tic tac toe.

                      i havent seen games like starcraft lately. back in the day games DID have better play then any games today, which didnt improve at all, rather it went down hill.... is saying no games today compare to sc far fetched? i dont think one bit at all.
                      Last edited by Zero; January 14, 2007, 19:39.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Zero


                        flash, i cant recall 1 good game that had graphics as selling point in 2006..... maybe even as far as 05 and 04...
                        Really, I can name one just off the top of my head, Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter. I'm sure they are others I just don't own a lot of 360 games. Thinking back the original xbox, Ninja Gaiden Black had both great graphics and awesome gameplay (expect for the damn camera). I'm sure they are countless other, but I don't feel like looking through my games to come up with more examples.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Zero
                          ok explain to me why gameplay of starcraft, warcraft 3, super turbo is bad..... because those games are in my high regards.
                          It's funny that you pick games from different genres to compare to GoW.

                          Have you played DOOM or Wolfenstein lately? Compare that to Gears of War

                          As for RTSes, I was a huge SC/WC3 fan, but give me Company of Heroes over either of those games.

                          Strategy games are one of the best examples of games with long-term playability. They are less of a cinematic experience and more of a strategic (duh) experience.

                          They are not game genres that ought to be comparable, and someone who had any real objective opinion would know that.

                          Gears of War is not about strategy as much as it is about a cinematic action experience. It's got fundamentally less replayability than games like Civ4, WC3, or Starcraft (BTW, WC2 >> WC3), but that's not the point of it. If you've got a problem with that, then clearly this kind of game isn't for you, so stop whining.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Zero
                            is saying no games today compare to sc far fetched? i dont think one bit at all.
                            That's 'cause you're out to lunch, buddy.

                            I guess you haven't been to a campus recently. Everyone's playing Company of Heroes as the RTS of choice -- Starcraft has fallen out of favour.

                            I think this whole angle of discussion you have is just absurd. You take a couple legendary games from Blizzard and compare them vacuously to a bunch of games today which you have clearly never played, then think nothing compares to it.

                            I don't know what it is about you Koreans and Starcraft/Warcraft -- but it's f*cking scary.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by flash9286
                              Really, I can name one just off the top of my head, Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter. I'm sure they are others I just don't own a lot of 360 games. Thinking back the original xbox, Ninja Gaiden Black had both great graphics and awesome gameplay (expect for the damn camera). I'm sure they are countless other, but I don't feel like looking through my games to come up with more examples.
                              Agreed. I think even Halo 2, for all people like Zero deride it for, is still massively popular.

                              There are tons of games that have come out that eclipse Starcraft in gameplay, but Zero is a retro/Korean gamer. If it's not an old game from his childhood when he was the coolest kid on the block 'cause he knew all the combos, it wasn't a fun game.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Asher
                                Have you played DOOM or Wolfenstein lately? Compare that to Gears of War
                                Bad analogy. DOOM is doing extremely well on the Live Arcade. It's been in the top ten most played games since its release in late September.
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