Vanguard Saga Of Heroes - Player made screenshots released

[Asher]

It's an awful game. My BF was very very very excited about this game but he just can't stand it.

Performance is awful, art direction is pretty bad, tons of grinding involved for everything....

[Harovan]

Really? Well, it's as it ought to be then.

[DrSpike]

/me wants to see Ralph and Asher debate the merits of grind based play.

[Skanky Burns]

My initial impression was Guild Wars with 1/4 of the performance. I only levelled once before deleting the game, so there is a chance it may have gotten better. My character in Eve-Online is still chugging along nicely.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph
Really? Well, it's as it ought to be then.

My Athlon 64 3200+ & GeForce 7800GS OC Superclock (500MHz core, 1.4GHz 256MB memory) has serious problems running the game.

The BF's rig (Core Duo 2GHz, GeForce 7900GTX) still has noticable performance problems.

Grinding combined with frustratingly laggy interfaces and choppiness does not make for a fun game...

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Skanky Burns
My initial impression was Guild Wars with 1/4 of the performance.

Ralph will not like this comment.

[Harovan]

Why, I like Guild Wars. For zero monthly fee it's a wonderful game, with nice tactical choices too. I just don't like 90% of the Guild Wars players.

Asher/Skanky: There are people with worse computers than yours who get 25-30 fps. Not great, but sufficient and not choppy. As for the interface, please, you were playing what, Beta 3? Beta 4 just started and I'm pretty sure there will be at least one more phase until release. Don't expect a ready game yet.

As for teh grind... like I said, all is as it should be.

[Asher]

I just patched to beta 4 the other day, there's no difference.

And keep in mind the "30fps" is likely:
1) An average, meaning half the time its below that
2) Outside of a city or any intense activity

Once you enter any reasonably-sized activity area performance is abysmal.

[Harovan]

My hint to the Beta phase you played concerned the interface, not performance. In fact, in mid-beta (as I would define VG's Beta 3) the focus of the developers is on other things than the interface. It has to work, somehow, that's good enough. It will get its revamp in due time, I'm sure. And I'm also certain, if you had seen earlier versions of the interface, your complaint would be even louder.

As for performance, I seriously doubt the game is optimized in any way yet. I can imagine the code is packed with debug info, trace messages and alike, which makes it an atrocious memory hog and prevents things from being cached. It's been announced to be optimized and released 512 minimum, 1 gig recommended (which by law of computer gaming basically means 1 gig minimum, 2 gigs recommended ), we'll see how it runs then.

As for the latest goss (that goes to Spikey), believe it or not, I lost track in the last weeks. I don't even know if I will play it on release or not. I'm not at all in MMOG mood at the moment.

[Asher]

You won't be missing much. The game is bad allaround, few people are happy.

Did I mention it takes up over 22GB of HD space?

[Bosh]

Silly PvE wack-a-mole games.

If I wanted to repetitively kill stupid AI monsters I'd play a single player game. What's the point of playing a MMOG if you can't crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of their women?

[Harovan]

There'll be PvP servers from the very beginning, for those who want to gank silly HS (human stupidity) monsters, see them driven before you and ... etc.

[DrSpike]

Are you confusing it with Age of Conan? :cute

[Harovan]

Some more stuff

Age of what?

[DrSpike]

/me raises his voice:

CONAN!