FG: Nuclear War XXXIII - Virtually assured destruction

[Spaced Cowboy]

sent

[Skanky Burns]

Sent.

[Ljube]

Orders sent.

[Jonny]

In.

[Chaunk]

Day Eleventynone

Snoopy sat his sim down and loaded up the programme.

>>>Select Order<<<
1. Stockpile Nukes
2. Build bunker
3. Train spy
4. Build city
5. Use bunker
6. Use spy (You will be allowed to perform an additional action if you wish.)
7. Launch nukes at...
8. Be UDWOTed

6.

Please select target:
1. Hercules
2. Jonny
3. Ljube
4. Spaced Cowboy
5. Skanky Burns

3.

Do you wish to choose another order?
1. Yes
2. No

1.

Select Order:
1. Stockpile Nukes
2. Build bunker
3. Train spy
4. Build city
5. Use bunker
6. Use spy (You will be allowed to perform an additional action if you wish.)
7. Launch nukes at...
8. Be UDWOTed

7.

Please select target:
1. Hercules
2. Jonny
3. Ljube
4. Spaced Cowboy
5. Skanky Burns

3.

Please select number of nukes:
1. 1
2. 2
3. 3
4. 4
(Note you will only be able to send 3 or 4 nukes if you have stockpiled previously.)

2.

You have chosen to send 2 nukes to Ljube. Please confirm.
1. Yes
2. No

1.

Snoopy gained 600 aspiration points for launching a nuke!

Snoopy gained 600 aspiration points for sending a spy!

Snoopy went for a shower, and mused about the repetetiveness of the updates and the sheer boringness of the sims.

In the shower, snoopy got a message: Your spy has stopped Ljube from building the city of Garland Crater!

He then got a second message. Ljube has sent a sneaky spy to your cities and has stopped you from launching nukes. They were not sent.

Snoopy spent the rest of the day crying into his toaster.

Hercules had likewise decided to build a city, but more successfully than Ljube. He rebuilt the city of Cargo, but with a capital C this time, and gained 1500 aspiration points.

Skanky, Spaced and Jonny had gotten together downtown. They'd needed some social before their sims decided to go chicken oriental. They didn't tell anyone what their actions for the day were though.

---

Snoopy sent 2 nukes and a spy to Ljube.
Ljube sent a spy to Snoopy and built a new city, Garland Crater.
Hercules rebuilt the city of Cargo.
Everyone else was secretly secret.

Skanky Burns	Frigate	Cruiser	Battleship	Industrial	Mining Barge
Spaced Cowboy
Jonny	Proton	Neutron	Electron	Muon	Tau
snoopy369	Porco Rosso	Spirited Away	Pincess Monnoke	Kiki's Delivery Service	Nausicaä of the Valley Wind
Hercules	Cargo	recycler	solar	Probe	Colony ship
Ljube	energy	xenofungus

24 hours I hope.

[Chaunk]

I'm not 100% certain I've used the correct ruling re: spys spying on each other. I've taken the view that the spys are not cancelled but other orders are.

Regardless of precident, this will stand for this game.

[Ljube]

Yes, that's right.

Orders sent.

[Spaced Cowboy]

sent

[snoopy369]

My understanding was that if two players send spies to each other, their spies are cancelled (used, but ineffective) and their orders take place. But I might be confusing this with GO. Either way, as long as it's evenly implemented it's fair

[Ljube]

It's always been like Chaunk interpreted.

[Chaunk]

Originally posted by snoopy369
My understanding was that if two players send spies to each other, their spies are cancelled (used, but ineffective) and their orders take place. But I might be confusing this with GO. Either way, as long as it's evenly implemented it's fair

That was my understanding, but then I re-read the rules a couple of times and it doesn't seem like that could be the interpretation.

[Skanky Burns]

Sent.

[Skanky Burns]

My interpretation was that spies sent between two players cancel each other out - their orders take place. This interpretation was used in the last round of the previous game too.

Either way, as long as it's evenly implemented it's fair

The rules may need to be ammended so there is less confusion in the future, though.

[Ljube]

When I won, in NW 19 I think, the rules used for spies were that they cancel orders and not each other.

I think we should decide one way or the other and put that into the rules.

[snoopy369]

My preference is for spies to cancel each other and not orders (As long as it's spy vs spy; if i'm spied by a 3rd party, then my orders are cancelled and not my spy).

IE:
I spy Ljube, and Ljube spies me, and I build a bunker, and Ljube sends 2 nukes: spies have no effect, bunker and nukes proceed as normal
I spy Ljube, and Jonny spies me, I bulid a bunker and Ljube sends 2 nukes: Ljube's nukes cancelled, my bunker cancelled
I spy Ljube, Ljube spies me, AND Jonny spies me, I build a bunker and Ljube sends 2 nukes: My bunker cancelled, by Jonny's spy, Ljube's nukes still fall.