Black and White.

[Barinthus]

Yeah! Its whimsical and i just love that leather s&m female minions yummy

[DrSpike]

I liked DK too.........though it seems to be off on a tangent for this thread. UR stop threadjacking.

[Adagio]

Originally posted by Dis
actually I admit I suck.

I hate games where you have to draw stupid symbols on the screen to cast spells. I find this to be tedious and I fail to see how this is realistic (as if spells exist in any kind of reality that we are familiar with). And Yes I suck at drawing symbols on the screen. I can never do it quick enough.

The drawing of symbols was the funniest part of B&W... of course that doesn't say much since the game itself was pretty boring... I only tried it once or twice though...

[child of Thor]

They were doing a "buy 3 for £10" offer on a selection of budget games in my local 'Game' store. So i got:

1. Dues Ex
2. Heros of Might+Magic3
3. SimCity3000uk edition.

only to go home and find out i already had an unopened SimCity3000 uk edition

So it was back to the shop a few days later and i was looking for something to swap SimCity for, and not having much luck. I'd seen it mentioned here that Black+White was a terrible game, maybe one of the worst ever...........

Anyway the guy in the shop suggested i get B+W, which i did with a little trepidation.
Anyway the short story is that i haven't been able to play it much as my gf has been hogging it she loves it, and i've been watching her play it while playing Morrowind.

At first the game crashed in the first stages of the introduction level - so i got the patch from here:

http://www.lionhead.com/bw/downloads.html

Now it seems to run ok(hate those 'Sold Out' installers though).

So far i've been entranced by its charms, and i do wonder at its 'terrible game' reputation; so far i've found it much more entertaining than many of my more recent games.

So i'm feeling like Frankychan on this one - its very absorbing so far

[DrSpike]

But can it last?

At least the other 2 games are of proven pedigree.

[child of Thor]

Originally posted by DrSpike
But can it last?

At least the other 2 games are of proven pedigree.

well its interesting to see where many of the elements of fable came from And as its only been three days so far maybe it will die on me?

[Bkeela]

I loved Black & White.

I got caught up in the hype about a year before its release. Six months prior to release, I was accessing news sites and message boards as part of my daily online routine.

When the release date slipped time and time again, I was extremely disappointed.

Finally the release date came. I rushed to my nearest independant video game store, for the filthy EB chain of stores hadn't devoured all opposition at that time, and I bought my copy of Black & White.

The game exceeded my expectations in all but one area. I enjoyed six months of immersive play. The type of gameplay where I would start at 7pm, and suddenly the birds would be chirping outside and I was forced to have a brief sleep before the new day.

Black & White was video game crack cocaine to me.

After six months or so, I became frustrated with the creature AI. I no longer had the patience to train creatures, so I eventually retired from the game.

I think Black & White was a pretty good game. I feel sorry for the idiots who didn't appreciate it.

[Skanky Burns]

What did you do in the game?

[Asher]

That was my problem with B&W...there was no direction in it, at least that's what it seems to most of us who didn't follow the game development for a year.

I got it because I heard it was good, and was amazed in the first couple days with the critters...and then I quickly got bored and felt lost, never to play it again.

[Blake]

You had to make your own direction. For me it was playing it as an amusing sim / city builder game, when I was bored I could give the villagers flying or burning lessons. The creature didn't interest me that much, I mostly just let it run wild, for some reason it would always turn out angelic, maybe because the little direction I did give it was mostly positive. I'd have loved to have a creature that would mostly help the villagers, but at a terrible price - a hunger for children! Alas I wasn't much of a creature trainer and my dreams of the creche being an all-you-can-eat buffet went unfullfilled.

[Bkeela]

I played through the story several times. I particularly enjoyed building up my villages. Like Blake, I was obsessive about setting myself up well for the next world.

Sometimes I liked playing skirmish games for a quick fix of battle. I found it really satisfying to convert opponent villages, leaving the rival god with just his pitiful temple. Then I would send in my tiger to blast the temple into oblivion. I savoured moments when all my villages were thriving by pausing and just feeling like a god, zooming all around, seeing things from different perspectives.

I grew my creature and taught him all the spells. One tiger creature in particular behaved well, and I could always rely on him to convert villages out of my grasp. He would go and sleep just outside the enemy village, instead of coming all the way back to my temple.

There was heaps to do in Black & White.

[child of Thor]

Originally posted by Blake
edit.......

I'd have loved to have a creature that would mostly help the villagers, but at a terrible price - a hunger for children! Alas I wasn't much of a creature trainer and my dreams of the creche being an all-you-can-eat buffet went unfullfilled.

well that seems to be the creature my gf has raised, much to her confusion - she first had a tiger, but that just seemed to have a nasty streak a mile wide, and didn't seem interested in learning anything other than eating the villagers.

Now she has a dance obsessed Orang-o-tan that does help the villagers for the most part, using water magic to help grow crops and then collect them etc. It even picks people up and stokes them before putting them back down. Still it does eat people according to its records, 4 so far.

The only time we've seen it do it was on the mission on the first level(before you go through the vortex thing) and it was that guy who wants to see your creature before worshiping you. Hes got a deep south american drawl type accent. Anyway he wasn't impressed with the size of our monkey, so she used the fluffy nice leash to attach the monkey to the guys house. The monkey started doing water magic growing trees around the guys place then would watch the response from the guy - he got none. Then he picked him up and ate him before she could do anything. It was shocking for both of us at the time - quite out of character, that we are aware of.

Interesting game - i think i might like it better than fable too as an early impression. I hope B+W2 builds on what seems to be here

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Bkeela
I played through the story several times. I particularly enjoyed building up my villages. Like Blake, I was obsessive about setting myself up well for the next world.

Sometimes I liked playing skirmish games for a quick fix of battle. I found it really satisfying to convert opponent villages, leaving the rival god with just his pitiful temple. Then I would send in my tiger to blast the temple into oblivion. I savoured moments when all my villages were thriving by pausing and just feeling like a god, zooming all around, seeing things from different perspectives.

I grew my creature and taught him all the spells. One tiger creature in particular behaved well, and I could always rely on him to convert villages out of my grasp. He would go and sleep just outside the enemy village, instead of coming all the way back to my temple.

There was heaps to do in Black & White.

Sorry, all sounds pretty

[MosesPresley]

Re: Black and White.

Originally posted by Frankychan
Has anyone else played this game? I know it's kind of old. I got this in the bargain bin for $10 USD. All I gotta say is that I am totally blown away. For a bargain game, it rock.

The AI is crazy. But the best part was when my avatar, which is a creature on the earth, told some villagers to follow him, pointed to where he wanted them to line up, then started dancing.

Then they did one of those "Soul Train" things where everyone walks down the line dancing. When my giant creature danced, all the little villagers chanted "Go! Go! Go!"

This game is crazy.

Here's a crappy screenie. I tried to get the "Soul Train" line, but I was blown away. If I get him taking a crap or chucking sheep I'll post it. The AI for my creature is nuts! He sometimes picks up sheep and launches em because he's bored....that's when I usually have to slap him and tell him to stop.

I loved this game when it first came out. I couldn't stop playing.

Sure it has some problems, but what game doesn't.

I can't wait for B&W2 that's going to be the bomb.

[Guynemer]

B&W2 is definitely sounding like a lot of fun, with a little more direction than the original, and a little easier to train and direct your creature as well.