Heroes of Might and Magic 5

[Atragon]

I disagree, 4 looks extremely cluttered, my order of preference goes 3, 1, 2, 4 from most to least based on the screenshots.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by DrSpike


You can't really do that now - your statements earlier were absolute statements not statements about graphics relative to the standards of the day.





I agree 1 and 2 were nice for their time, but that's not the point, and not what you claimed. 4 looks better than 1 period, and you can't credibly claim otherwise.

I was being exaggeratory. 1 isn't really that comparible to 4 since there's a completely new graphics environment (although in some respects it is, since 4 continues to use the same familiar sprites and has less detailed structures than 1 despite it's supposed sophistication), but it is comparable to 2 and 3. And 2 isn't just "nice for it's time" it's just better, period. HoMM2 is the only game in the series so far that has had a consistently aesthetic atmosphere.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by General Ludd


I was being exaggeratory.

Oh.

[Dan Magaha FIRAXIS]

You do realize that image isn't an actual image of HoMM IV, right? It's a scan from a 2001 issue of CGW which was showing prerelease images of what the game looked like then.

THIS is what HoMM IV looks like:






Dan

[Kuciwalker]

@ the Firaxis Lord

[Tassadar500]

General Ludd was just PWND by Firaxis.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Dan Magaha FIRAXIS







Dan

The walls and cities are just as bad and out of place in the final release, as shown by that temple thing. You just happened to pick a screenshot that was mostly trees.

[Nikolai]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
HoMM 4 definitely looks... strange. It doesn't look actually bad, but the various elements just don't fit together.

It reminds me of Caesar 3. A great game btw. It wakes some good memories. HoMM2 definately looks best. The graphics of HoMM5 of course is much better, but it reminds me too much of Warcraft 3. That is a game which the graphics didn't do any good...

[Theben]

My main beef with HOMM4 (aside from the pathetic AI) was that you acquired a ton of useless, or mostly useless, crap (magic) and had no way of getting rid of it safely- HOMM3 at least had the sacrifical altar.

HOMM3 was the best in the series.

[Ljube]

It is evident nobody of you guys played any MP. Heroes AI is useless and to experience heroes games fully you had to play against other humans. Heroes 2 was the best MP you could get because of speed mostly, but heroes 3 and 4 added some flavour and twist. I played them all in MP and can't really decide which one I like more, not taking the speed into account.

Also, for SP, there are custom campaigns and scenarios which mostly compensate for the poor AI with bonuses and these campaigns and scenarios are best in Heroes 4.

As for the graphics, I agree that from the game play point of view Heroes 2 have the best graphics. But it is usually the case that animation brings nothing to the game play (like civ2 compared to civ3) and just drains resources which slows up the game.

[DarkCloud]

Originally posted by DrSpike


Let's be honest though, you are strange.

IIRC this game qualifies under your rules as a 'shooter'.

Yes. I suppose it does. Especially in the outdoor combat phase.
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On another subject, I'll repeat--> Honestly, shooters are the only games that should have 3D. (fable, etc.) so I once again, repeat a slight fear for HoMM V since only in combat is it really supposed to be a shooter.
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by the way, did anyone notice this was Dan's first post since 2002? amazing... it's quite obvious that Civ IV's well in the works to completion if Dan's back perusing the boards

[Dan Magaha FIRAXIS]

Civ isn't my project...

[DarkCloud]

Hmm... "Pirates!" is long-since finished- so are you working on the new upcoming game that is to be decided by the poll on your site? Or something completely different?

Just wondering...

[snoopy369]

Nice to see you back Dan...

[Dan Magaha FIRAXIS]

I just finished Pirates Xbox, as well as reissues of Pirates PC and CivComplete for 2K Games. Of course the new project is top-secret...