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  • If I ally, I keep my agreement. That way if I need an alliance later, I can still get people's trust. Taking the short-term view will cause more problems in the long-term. I know I will think twice before allying with people who have broken pacts before.
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    • Ah, but where are the General's forces? I do not like the line on nomadic desperation
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      • What I'm saying is that you broke an agreement. you'll have trouble finding partners that are willing to honor an agreements that you have proposed.

        I know that there will only be one, but I will still honor my agreements. That is the delta.
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        • Originally posted by Skanky Burns
          If I ally, I keep my agreement. That way if I need an alliance later, I can still get people's trust. Taking the short-term view will cause more problems in the long-term. I know I will think twice before allying with people who have broken pacts before.
          I guess i'm just more paranoid, and as a result more mercenary. If I ally, short term, I think about whether or not my ally is likely to betray me or not; and then I go ahead with it. I assume that others think in the same way ... though apparently not very many do.

          I am not saying that I usually betray people - this is the first time i've actively betrayed anyone, and probably the last for a while yet. But, there are some situations where it's ... necessary, and I don't think very many of the rest of you will complain that the four of us took out Spaced's huge fleet of lasers, by far the biggest danger in this game (at the time).

          I believe I earn "trust" by showing that the situation i'm suggesting (alliance, say) is in the best interest of both myself and my proposed ally. Skanky, if I suggested attacking someone with you, and you couldn't see any great benefit to it for me, would you ally with me? I doubt it. I hope not, anyway ... On the other hand, if you suggest an alliance to me, and you don't have any clear reason for doing so, I'm certainly not going to agree to it. But, if I suggest attacking someone that benefits you AND me, more than the betrayal of one or the other of us would benefit either of us, I would presume you'd accept.

          There are many situations where this is the case, and that's where alliances come from in this game. I suggest to X, "Let's go attack Z, we'll each get 6 bases and we'll lose nothing." X has a large fleet, as do I, and Z has a similar sized fleet. X and I have 8 bases each, and Z has 12. That's a clear win-win, for 6 bases, and so X agrees.

          OTOH, if I suggest the same thing, but Z has a fleet half the size of mine, and 12 bases, compared to X having a fleet twice the size of mine, and 16 bases. Would you ever accept that deal, as X? You'd be loony to - it's just asking for betrayal. And if I were X, i'd laugh at a suggestion like that, and then go attack on my own, or perhaps shield, *just in case*.

          Do you see what I mean?
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          • I'm assuming that "awesome update" means there is at least one "fair fight" - or at least a fight that goes over the full 6 rounds

            /me hopes its not Kassi's fleet grinding itself to death in amusing fashion*

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            • Originally posted by Spaced Cowboy
              What I'm saying is that you broke an agreement. you'll have trouble finding partners that are willing to honor an agreements that you have proposed.

              I know that there will only be one, but I will still honor my agreements. That is the delta.
              Eh, we'll see. I've kept the far majority of my agreements - ask Geomodder, for example; we agreed to a NAP, and we kept it, even though I wanted to attack him a few times. I don't think breaking some agreements makes me a dishonorable player, by this game's standards; I think it makes me a smart player, and more well respected by the smart players, who won't assume they can take me for a ride. I broke an agreement that was obviously made to be broken, but have held by more ... realistic agreements, ones with gains for everyone involved. I think that will earn me more, in the long run.
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              • Originally posted by Jamski
                I'm assuming that "awesome update" means there is at least one "fair fight" - or at least a fight that goes over the full 6 rounds

                * Jamski hopes its not Kassi's fleet grinding itself to death in amusing fashion*

                -Jam
                I fail to see any possibility for the sight of my fleet grinding itself to death to be amusing in any fashion
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                • Chapter 13.2
                  Exit Strategy

                  Here is something to think about
                  Run.
                  -Strategy no. 36 of 36, Sun Tzu's Art of War


                  With war comes change, and now the winds of change were blowing against the old monarchial establishment.

                  While Siffan Industries' roller-coaster tech boom and busts had attracted headlines, Mr. Y's industrial empire had quietly amassed the largest fleet in the galaxy. Now, a small but still sizeable part of it was put to use.

                  But first, a spy operation. Under the cover of a space-typewriter-monkey dealer, an agent of Mr. Y infiltrated the headquarters of the Ventis Society.

                  -----------------------------------------------------------

                  "What? We've been spied?"

                  "I'm afraid so, Zol. Though it's not that bad, the only thing affected was our spy training program. It's not as if you ordered an attack anyway."

                  "That's what I'm concerned about- spies only play spy versus spy pranks with each other in old 20th century magazines- I sense an invasion coming."

                  "Well, looking at the fleet tactics manual, I don't think we should be worried too much about that. By the way, that was probably the shortest tactics manual since the days when people fought with rocks."

                  --------------------------------------------------

                  Zol's fleet was already at full power when Mr. Y's titans dropped in. Wasting no time, Zol ordered his crews to turn over the one-page tactics manual.

                  On the back was a single word: DISENGAGE.

                  ---------------------------------------------------

                  Six bases, including the just completed new headquarters, were captured.
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                  • OH CRAP
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                    • Originally posted by Jamski
                      I'm assuming that "awesome update" means there is at least one "fair fight" - or at least a fight that goes over the full 6 rounds

                      * Jamski hopes its not Kassi's fleet grinding itself to death in amusing fashion*

                      -Jam

                      Here is something to think about
                      Optimism is the seed of disappointment.
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                      There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
                      Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General Ludd

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                      • Cake and grief counseling will be available at the conclusion of the test. Thank you for helping us help you help us all!

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                        • /me thinks he knows where this is going
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                          • Welllll, at least I'll go down attacking like any good General should
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                            • Originally posted by Kassiopeia
                              Welllll, at least I'll go down attacking like any good General should
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                              • :) Smiley just thinks it is awesome because a bunch of Eventsians get pwned...
                                ~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~

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