Neverwinter Nights - The revenge

[Dis]

don't spend all of that gold Jamski. There are a few things you can do with a couple of million gold in chapter 3. I won't say what though.

and it can be unbalanced. Most normal encounters are easy. But a couple can be hard.

You've already encountered the dracolich. He's pretty tough. There's a battle in chapter 3 with one of your NWN OC buddies that can be tough. And the final battle is no cakewalk either depending on how you do it.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Jamski
I'm just looking at the NWN2 forums, and it seems that they'll be using the latest version of the Aurora Engine (as in NWN and KotOR) This is GOOD NEWS If its not broken, etc etc....

Ah well, Autumn 2006 isn't so far away.....

-Jam

I would expect it to take a while. Obsidian is doing two major sequals now. I hope they have the manpower. I expect them to finish up KOTOR2 before starting on NWN2. I'm looking forward to what they can do with that game. Bioware did some cool things. But I think it's good to have a different reputable designer work on a sequal. sometimes they implement things the original company might never have thought of. Doesn't always work though. Wasn't CTP supposed to be an unofficial sequal of civ2?

[DrSpike]

The Dracolich turned out to be the joint hardest battle in my game. The two battles with OC people were easy, and the last battle was about the same as the dracolich. My fighter/WM with massively upgraded Enserric was virtually unstoppable.

[Arnelos]

Yeah! (for the announcement of NWN2)

[Arnelos]

Why is Folderol offline more often than it is online?

I have been checking out other servers quite a bit over the past 2-3 weeks because of this, though. I've found both an LotR-themed server that isn't horrible (though most of the players I swear must be 12 years old) and a Dragonlance/Krynn-themed server that I just started checking out earlier today. I'm guessing that the source material is old enough and obscure enough (not a major hollywood movie series) that only people in their 20s and 30s would even know about it in the first place. Only problem with the server is that it's the only server I've ever been on that's more laggy than Folderol was about a month ago.

To be honest, I checked out the server in large part because I re-read all three of the Dragonlance Chronicles trilogy of novels over the last two days while bored out of my mind at work (and having pretty much nothing to do). I had found them while rumaging through old stuff in my parents' house that they wanted to get rid of. Not a bad read, considering I'd last read them in junior high some 10-11 years ago.

[Jamski]

Actually Arnelos, it seems ALL my "favorites" are offline at the moment. I blame Gamespy

Someone suggest a crazy character build and we can all play "Character Doctor" and think of ways to make it work better. I like that game

-Jam

[duke o' york]

I'd like a Red Dragon disciple who can actually fight please Dr Jamski.

[Jamski]

Hehe. Another poor victim of the "very tempting" +8 STR that the RDD gets. The trouble is that you need a level of Bard or Sorc in order to qualify for the RDD, and they are really not good fighters. The trick is WHEN you take what levels.

Here's one to play with.

Human LG Paladin
STR 14
DEX 10
CON 14
INT 8
WIS 14
CHA 16

Take 4 Lore at level 1 and 1 each level untill it is 8

1 Paly1 (PowerAttack and Cleave)
2 Paly2
3 Paly3 (Weapon Focus*)
4 Bard1 (+1 CHA)
5 Paly4
6 Paly5 (Divine Might)
7 RDD1
8 RDD2 (+1 CHA)
9 Paly6 (Divine Shield)
10 RDD3
11 RDD4
12 RDD5 (Improved Critical* +1 CHA)
13 RDD6
14 RDD7
15 RDD8 (Great Cleave)
16 RDD9 (+1 CHA)
17 RDD10
18 Paly 7 (Improved Turning or Improved Smite Evil)
19 Paly 8
20 Paly 9 (+1 STR)

So at level 20, you'll have
STR 23 (max out to 35 with spells and items!!!)
DEX 10
CON 16
INT 10
WIS 14
CHA 22 (max out to 34 with spells and items!!!)

You'll have 4 attacks per round, can fight in heavy armour while singing your Bard Song (hey, its a free +1 to hit) with immense STR, and at least 9 times a day you'll be able to use Divine Might/Shield to add your (hopefully HUGE) CHA bonus to damage and/or AC for at least 6 rounds a time. You have enough STR to take Overwhelming Criticals at level 21... want me to go on and make an epic build too? It gets quite insane amounts of CHA

-Jam

[duke o' york]

But do I get the kinky wings as well?

Incidentally, are they any good, or do they just look cool? RDD is my favourite fancy build, but I reckon the the Weaponmaster is probably the best, or certainly the easiest way to cheesify your character into invincibility.

[Jamski]

You get the kinky wings, and unlike a weaponmaster you can fight elementals, undead, golems etc that are immune to criticals and NOT look crap Infact undead are your favorite enemies, since you can turn them with your massive CHA, or smash them up with a Blessed Weapon (oh, +2d6 vs undead? Yes please!)

Weaponmasters rely on criticals too much to be that great. They're a one-trick character. I made a Rogue/WM/Wizard build that was good though. Devastating criticals, a heap of sneak damage and level 9 mage spells. Hehehehe. Still had trouble with some golems (can't sneak, can't crit, they're magic resistant ARGH!)

-Jam

[duke o' york]

I appreciate their use in MP especially, but from what I looked at, Dwarven Defenders suXX0r. I've got a feeling that you're about to prove me wrong on this, and look forward to it, but despite their being the ideal "first person through the door/cave entrance" in MP and soaking up damage that would kill characters with poor armour, they just don't have enough for me to get excited about.

Oh, and while I'm in Dr Jamski's surgery, what is the level cap in the original campaign?

[Jamski]

Erm, if you have HotU installed, the level cap in the OC is 40

BUT

You'll probably only reach level 17-18 before running out of stuff to kill unless you hack the module about a bit

I didn't find a good use for Dwarven Defenders yet, mainly because I hate Dwarves

-Jam

[duke o' york]

I hate halflings. And bards. And I'm not that fond of druids. Am I turning into the NWN PA here?

Kindly elaborate on your Rogue/WM/mage build please Dr Jam. I'm intrigued as to how you managed to get level 9 spells as well as all the stuff required to be a WM.

[Jamski]

Ok, Rogue/WM/Wizard.

You're wanting to max out INT and STR with this build, and a decent DEX doesn't hurt, since you'll not be armoured up.

Human
STR 17
DEX 14
CON 8
INT 16
WIS 8
CHA 8
(yes, bad CON)

Skills - take at least 4 ranks of Intimidate before level 13

1 Rogue 1 (Dodge, Expertise)
2 Rogue 2
3 Rogue 3 (Weapon Focus*)
4 Rogue 4 (+1 STR)
5 Rogue 5
6 Rogue 6 (Mobility)
7 Rogue 7
8 Rogue 8 (+1 STR)
9 Rogue 9 (Spring Attack)
10 Rogue 10 (Improved Evasion)
11 Rogue 11
12 Rogue 12 (Whirlwind Attack) (+1 STR)
13 WM 1
14 WM 2
15 WM 3 (Improved Critical*)
16 WM 4 (+1 STR)
17 WM 5
18 WM 6 (Knockdown )
19 WM 7
20 Wizard 1 (+1 STR)
21 Wizard 2 (Great Strength 1)
22 Wizard 3
23 Wizard 4
24 Wizard 5 (Overwhelming Criticals, Spell Focus Evocation, +1 STR)
25 Wizard 6
26 Wizard 7
27 Wizard 8 (Great INT 1)
28 Wizard 9 (+1 STR)
29 Wizard 10 (Greater Spell Focus Evocation)
30 Wizard 11 (Devastating Criticals)
31 Wizard 12
32 Wizard 13 (+1 INT)
33 Wizard 14 (whatever, you rule anyway)
34 Wizard 15 (whatever, you rule anyway)
35 Wizard 16
36 Wizard 17 (+1 INT) (whatever, you rule anyway)
37 Wizard** 18
38 Wizard** 19
39 Wizard** 20 (whatever, you rule anyway x 2)
40 Wizard** 21 (+1 STR/INT)

* I suggest a two-handed weapon, as a shield will cause Spell Failure
**Or more Rogue levels, by preference

Now THAT is a character

-Jam

[duke o' york]

Lawks!

I think that I might well steal your RDD build and use it in a new go at the OC. I've started plenty of times already, so another one won't hurt too much. Will it?
If only I could actually be bothered to go and have some adventures, instead of creating and planning so many characters. :non-existentshrugsmiley: