Galactic Overlord II Game Thread

[GeneralTacticus]

Orders sent, with some questions.

[Spaced Cowboy]

Oob are in the raw data with the formation below that

Mt oob is llfftt, his is lftftl
I had close and all others were normal, including his.

[:) Smiley]

With those OoBs, Spaced indeed had a wipeout victory.

Now, while the knockout rule 1.2 has certainly made single-weapon fleets more predictable, it has made them even more powerful.

[Spaced Cowboy]

Actually, had he put his torps against my lasers in the second round, he would have won.

That would have taken me out while only blowing away two of his titans. My oob's beat or tied his at every instance.

[Kassiopeia]

Bah. So, what, ten battleships with a single weapon can blaze away six titans with some luck? I'm awfully glad I got annihilated this early in the game.

[Skanky Burns]

Combat needs to be reworked.

[Kassiopeia]

Well, I do see one fluke.

I took 50 hits, and my entire fleet was destroyed, when a single fighter titan, 1/5th of my remaining fleet, was fighting with a heap of laser-equipped ships. Sure, the fighters and the carrier got toasted, but the same time the entire fleet with its variety of weapons got decimated? I don't know how to solve this without making it awfully hard for the GM though.

The OOB may have a little too large a role, still. It factors in a lot of luck, which I usually run out of very quickly. If your Ls and Fs happen to be in a good order, you can utterly destroy a superior fleet that has a multitude of weapons (to try to counter anything anyone could throw against it).

[Skanky Burns]

A problem is 1.2, moreso that 1.1, encourages single-weapon fleets. Obviously, the counter for single-weapon laser fleets is a single-weapon torp fleet. Had Kassi survived the first two rounds though, Spaced's fleet would have been decimated by the unanswered barrage of fighter and torpedo fire (both at x2 due to no return fire). Luck needs to play some roll in the game.

Tentatively, I'll put this one down to luck and see how the next round goes using 1.2 .

[Kassiopeia]

Originally posted by Skanky Burns
A problem is 1.2, moreso that 1.1, encourages single-weapon fleets. Obviously, the counter for single-weapon laser fleets is a single-weapon torp fleet.

Didn't the same problem plague 1.0 too, which prompted 1.1? And obviously, the counter for a single-weapon torp fleet is a single-weapon fighter fleet... and the merry-go-round goes round and round.

But if you build a sw fleet you're forced to attacking and attacking every turn with everything you've got, without any worry for your remaining bases, because if you stay behind someone with the right weapon to counter yours _will_ attack. It makes for an aggressive game but imho removes a certain degree of tactical thought.

Had Kassi survived the first two rounds though, Spaced's fleet would have been decimated by the unanswered barrage of fighter and torpedo fire (both at x2 due to no return fire). Luck needs to play some roll in the game.

/me shrugs

Let's just hope this was a case of phenomenally good/bad luck.

[joncha]

orders sent

[GeneralTacticus]

Didn't the same problem plague 1.0 too, which prompted 1.1? And obviously, the counter for a single-weapon torp fleet is a single-weapon fighter fleet... and the merry-go-round goes round and round.

But if you build a sw fleet you're forced to attacking and attacking every turn with everything you've got, without any worry for your remaining bases, because if you stay behind someone with the right weapon to counter yours _will_ attack. It makes for an aggressive game but imho removes a certain degree of tactical thought.

The problem with 1.0 wasn't so much single-weapon fleets as the fact that there was a 1 in 6 chance of the OOBs lining up in such a way that one fleet dished out all the damage and took none in return, no matter what the disparities in size or firepower were. Hence, the OOB was lengthened, and the x2 rule was implemented.

* Kassiopeia shrugs

Let's just hope this was a case of phenomenally good/bad luck.

Well, I'd certainly call it that; if you'd put something other than fighters in for your second round, Spaced wouldn't have done nearly as well.

[Skanky Burns]

And his balanced fleet would have brought its full firepower to bear.

[Jamski]

Actually... boring statistics time... in 2 cases from 3 a balanced fleet of equal size (10-10-10) will defeat a 1-weapon fleet. (30-0-0)

Conclusion : 1-weapon fleets suXX0rs.

I can't believe I'm still alive!

Orders Sent!

-Jam

[joncha]

Ah, Jamski... you know it's just a cunning plan to ween you off of NWN.

Before you know it, you'll be back at the Event again.

[Jamski]

Well... I do read threads there sometimes

-Jam