Galactic Overlord II Game Thread

[ravagon]

I would suggest that the OOB be treated as an actual OOB.

(Please bear in mind that this is just a suggestion and that I haven't kept track of all of the rules here so I may have missed something monumental and this may be a load of utter codswallop)

ie: Round one sees the laser-equipped ships face off - Kassi's laser ships take damage as above.

Then there are two alternatives

(i) Round 1 ends with Kassi's other ships unengaged/undamaged (able to counterattack?).
Second round has Spaced's laser-ships against Kassi's fighter-ships - resulting in the annihilation of said fighter-ships. Torpedo/laser ships untouched (and again able to counterattack?).

ie: 15 lasers 10 lasers
15 lasers 10 fighters
0 fighters 10 torpedoes
0 fighters 10 fighters
0 torpedoes 10 torpedoes
0 torpedoes 10 lasers


effectively defaults to:

15 lasers 10 lasers
0 fighters 10 fighters
0 torpedoes 10 torpedoes
15 lasers 10 fighters
0 fighters 10 torpedoes
0 torpedoes 10 lasers





(ii) Round 1 continues - laser vs fighter and Kassi's fighter ships are annihilated as above.
OOB remains as original and Spaced's lasers still wipe out Kassi's fighters (and only his fighters) - but then end up possibly having to face off against the last phase of torpedo fire.
Second round might then continue with Spaced only able to defend against a torpedo attack and then the remnants of Kassi's lasers?

I don't know how unbalancing unopposed fire might be so it might be better to just forget about counterattacks and have Kassi bug out with his surviving torp/fighter ships ...

[Kassiopeia]

I can't believe I'm still alive!

I can't believe I'm dead.

Actually... boring statistics time... in 2 cases from 3 a balanced fleet of equal size (10-10-10) will defeat a 1-weapon fleet. (30-0-0)

That's pretty plain, you'd have to consider tactics and formations and ship sizes too. How about a balanced superior (in raw total firepower) fleet and an inferior 1-weapon fleet, the odds are probably way below 0.33.

/me sulks

[Jamski]

That doesn't work.
Example.

200 Lasers 0 Fighters
200 Lasers 0 Fighters
0 Fighters 1 Torpedo
0 Torpedoes 1 Laser
0 Fighters 1 Torpedo
0 Torpedoes 1 Laser

Who wins that fight? Silly suggestion.

-Jam

[ravagon]

Originally posted by Jamski
That doesn't work.
Example.

200 Lasers 0 Fighters
200 Lasers 0 Fighters
0 Fighters 1 Torpedo
0 Torpedoes 1 Laser
0 Fighters 1 Torpedo
0 Torpedoes 1 Laser

Who wins that fight? Silly suggestion.

-Jam

Well, not if the second player is allowed to put nothing in for his first rank it wouldn't.
By default you'd shift the second players OOB upwards and end up with 200 lasers vs 1 torp then 200 lasers vs 1 laser.

[Chaunk]

How about the simple change that in the OOB no ship can fight two rounds consecutivly. Then you can feel free to have one weapon fleets, but know that they can't destroy the opposition in the first two rounds, there's definatly a round in between their firing with no returns.

[Jamski]

How about we don't change anything. Whatever the rules are, they are the same rules for everyone, so it is fair. If we now nerf a certain fleet composition, those who built that kind of fleet already suffer.

Hmmm?

-Jam

[Skanky Burns]

Besides, one-weapon fleets are easily countered. If you know they are going to hit you with lasers, have your fleet back off and put torpedos first. W00tage.

[Chaunk]

Well you might know they'll attack with lasers, but thats assuming you know who's going to attack you...

Ah well, c'est al vie and all that! Orders sent shortly.

[Skanky Burns]

Well, everyone currently has either a balanced force or one leaning heavily towards lasers. Its not quite a stab in the dark guessing what you will be up against (Smiley and yourself being the exceptions).

[GeoModder]

Orders sent as well

/me starts to see interesting possibilities...

[:) Smiley]

The first round after any new change is bound to be unbalanced, as strategies still need to be tested and worked out, and fleet compositions reorganized. Let's go for a couple more before we make a call on 1.2.

[DrSpike]

Hmm, this game needs some clarification. I'm just amazed the GM can understand it when adding two numbers together in gladiators foxed him.

[:) Smiley]

It won't be long before GMing Galactic Overlord will require a degree in mathematics.

[Spaced Cowboy]

Originally posted by Kassiopeia


I can't believe I'm dead.



That's pretty plain, you'd have to consider tactics and formations and ship sizes too. How about a balanced superior (in raw total firepower) fleet and an inferior 1-weapon fleet, the odds are probably way below 0.33.

* Kassiopeia sulks

Sorry Kass, don't hold it against me, it is only a game.

[Ljube]

I love them builder noobs. They are so predictable. Ripe for taking.