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[Urban Ranger]

Oh well. I wasn't making suggestions for additional abilities.

I think the Sorcerer's ability could use these limitations:

1. He cannot make a player to vote for himself. That is, he can't make A to vote for A.

2. He can't use the power when there are less than n players, where n is decided by the GM in advance. 3 seems to be the cut off point - a Sorcerer cannot Influence another player when there are only 3 players left, including the Sorcerer. But could be more, depending on the starting number.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Are we ever going to start or just add more powers?

[joncha]

We still need a few more players...

[Skanky Burns]

Jam and I could do the honours if one of the rules could be bent slightly.

Which isn't such a bad idea actually. I propose that players still alive in the mafia game can also join the Assassins game at a lower priority than players not in the mafia game. This way anyone who wants to play this game and isn't in the other can, and this game will also get enough players that we can actually start.

Thoughts?

[joncha]

It's a possibility, but I think there's no real rush.

[Zopperoni]

Nah, I think it went wrong because Mafia took too many players. 20-24 was good, but now there were 26, which is too many.

[Jamski]

Wait a few hours, and there will be two more dead mafia-players.

-Jam

[DrSpike]

DC: I would be a wizard, but their abilities suxxorz.

Skanky: no players can play in both. I wasn't allowed to signup for Mafia, and Mafia players can't play here unless they are dead.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by joncha

With secret, one-use powers, it would make for far more intrigue.

I thought that's how it was going to work.... aside from certain abilities which might be appropriate or neccisary to make public, atleast.

And of course the person can always anounce that he's going to do something.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Some suggestions:

Sorcerer has the ability to Influence. Once per game he use it on another player, who will automatically vote for the person the sorcerer names. However, the player so influenced will automatically vote against the sorcerer the next round. The GM does the switching behind the scenes both times

The Wizard has the ability to Ask the Dead. Three times each game he can direct specific Yes/No questions to the dead (either assassinated or executed). The GM determines if the dead person knows the answer, and if so, will answer it honestly.

The Ranger has the ability to Look for Clues which can be used once per game. When used, the GM will inform the player, in private, which hints are real and which are red herrings.

The abilities above are Secret (PM to GM for activation).

The Paladin has the ability to Declare Innocence. If he is voted to be the assassin and he is in fact not, he can make the declaration. When that happens, another round of voting takes place, and the Paladin cannot be voted for that round. This power is automatic (GM activates it when the conditions are met).

the cleric is much better suited for speaking to the dead than the Wizard

and influence is a stupid power for a sorcerer

JOn Miller

[Jon Miller]

according to latest rules, Paladins and Wizards can crush

basically a Paladin asks the Wizard (publicly) to cast divination because he is going to use his petition power

if the Wizard refuses he is the Mafia

if the Wizard doesn't refuse, than he gets a list of votes, he publicly posts who the Paladin voted for

if the Wizard is lying about the vote, than the Assassin is not killed, and next round the Wizard is voted out

if the Wizard tells the truth, than the Assassin is voted out

crushes (and all there has to be is a Wizard and a Paladin in the game)

my suggestion

every class has two powers, one usuable as standard and one usuable as an Assassin (some classes, like Paladin, would have a Blackguard power for their Assassin power)

all powers are done in secret, so you can't tell if someone used it or not

Jon Miller

[Ljube]

The characters are not balanced. The sorcerer is particularly weak.

[Jon Miller]

like the sorcerer Assassin power might be

Kill 3 people this round

this power would only be used at the end (because it tips off to the fact that the Assassin is a sorcerer, unless you made it so that Wizards had this power as well) and as such would make the end of games variable

Jon Miller

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
basically a Paladin asks the Wizard (publicly) to cast divination because he is going to use his petition power

Uh, John, he can't use that power until people vote him as the Mafia.

Originally posted by Jon Miller
if the Wizard refuses he is the Mafia

Originally posted by Jon Miller
if the Wizard doesn't refuse, than he gets a list of votes, he publicly posts who the Paladin voted for

Uh, the Paladin votes publicly anyway.

Originally posted by Jon Miller
if the Wizard is lying about the vote, than the Assassin is not killed, and next round the Wizard is voted out

if the Wizard tells the truth, than the Assassin is voted out

You have to work on your logic some more.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Ljube-ljcvetko
The characters are not balanced. The sorcerer is particularly weak.

Nope. He can use his powers at the same time to cast 3 votes. In a closed ballet, this can easily tip the balance.