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  • #31
    this is actually much harder than i thought it would be to pick just one. personally i'm having a hard time deciding between ff6, morrowind, and fallout 2. it's hard because as a kid i adored ff6 but i have a feeling it'd bore me to tears now just like all the other ff games do. morrowind is great but at higher levels it is seriously easy. fallout 2 is near perfect but it lacks replayability even if it is pretty long.

    i'll have to pick fallout 2 in the end. if morrowind was better balanced and remained challenging throughout i'd pick it instead. i hope tes 4 fixes this...
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    • #32
      I guess I'll have to be different and name the ORIGINAL Fallout . It had a better story than its sequal, IMO. It was just perfection. I was looking to get Diablo, then I read the back of Fallout's box and picked it up. Smartest decision I ever made.
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      • #33
        yeah but after you've played fallout 2 fallout isn't nearly as good. plus they also have the same story more or less.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
          I guess I'll have to be different and name the ORIGINAL Fallout . It had a better story than its sequal, IMO. It was just perfection. I was looking to get Diablo, then I read the back of Fallout's box and picked it up. Smartest decision I ever made.
          I totally agree. The time limit also heightened the tension. Every subquest, you had to wonder "do I have time for this?".

          Fallout 2's story seemed more like a series of episodes patched together and filled with in-jokes and there was no sense of urgency.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by obstructor
            ah yes, KOTOR is good - has an epic soul, but it is somehow - too simple? for my taste. I am still going to finish it at least four times more.
            4 times!

            I have played it twice through. I have done every quest.

            Although after reading the preview for KOTOR2 in last month's Computer Gaming World, I'm in the mood to play again

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            • #36
              I totally agree. The time limit also heightened the tension. Every subquest, you had to wonder "do I have time for this?".


              Yep. Indeed. The time limit, and just finding out what the Hell was going on here was great. In Fallout 2, you had some idea of what was happening, even if the end was suprising.

              yeah but after you've played fallout 2 fallout isn't nearly as good. plus they also have the same story more or less.


              You ****ting me? Same story, wha? Fallout was way better than the sequal, IMO.
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              • #37
                Fallout and Fallout2. Fallout 2 had so many cool things. New Reno being one of them. Gauss rifles being the other .

                But Fallout 1 had a better plot. I always though the idea of a G.E.C.K. was a bit far fetched. Even for a futuristic game. So that's why I go with the water chip for Fallout1. But I like it when you get to the Vault City vault in fallout 2 and find all those water chips

                But Fallout 2 had such cool towns as Broken Hills, New Reno, Vault City, NCR.

                Fallout 1 had necropolis which I thought was real cool the first time I played. I also like the hole.

                They both were such great games. Fallout 1 had a better storyline, and a better mood and feel to the game. Fallout2 just had more cool stuff.

                I call it a draw.

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                • #38
                  Ah, I think a better storyline and atmosphere will always win over a game with more 'cool stuff' . The first time you realized where all the *you know what* came from was pretty suprising. That and the leader of the cult.
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                  • #39
                    KOTOR was great, but I have yet to succumb to the addiction to these crappy Final FNatasy games, so I can't say for sure.
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                    • #40
                      PC:
                      - Baldur´s Gate (1, 2, exps)
                      - Planescape Torment
                      - NWN: the 2 exps, not the main one, wich was ok but wasn´t that great.
                      - FFVII

                      Consola:
                      - Chrono Trigger
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                      • #41
                        2nd edition was always my favourite, although I haven't played the third. Anyone remember the short-lived WFRP? It was fun to have a different world, but it was too complicated with all of the different stats, and the jobs system tended to restrict character development.

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                        • #42
                          Its hard to narrow down to an individual game, but if we can choose a series it would be either a nostalgic nod to 'Alternate Reality the City'+'Alternate Reality the Dungeon' on the atari 8bits. These games i have spent more total hours playing than any other to date.

                          Or the Elder scrolls games(arena/daggerfall/Morrowind) - Bethseda are getting better at these games all the time, and hopefully the fourth in the series will be something really special.

                          Out of these two i would have to give the Morrowind series the vote for offering one of the most immersive computer 'rpg' experiences i've had, and also one that i find easier to 'role-play' than any other rpg(in that it is very open ended and free form).
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                            Ah, I think a better storyline and atmosphere will always win over a game with more 'cool stuff' . The first time you realized where all the *you know what* came from was pretty suprising. That and the leader of the cult.
                            I loved Fallout as a once-through adventure with superb storyline much in the same way as Planescape: Torment, but in that race I would give highest honours to PS:T. Fallout 2 wins over both in replayability as far as I am concerned. There really is no way you can do everything or see everything in one play through. I'm still not sure I've found everything you can do with the scorpions' reading glasses even after a dozen runs through. That kind of attention to detail facinates me even when the core plot is a well travelled road. It was also substantially longer, and in a game where I'm enjouying every minute, longer is definitely better.
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                            • #44
                              did anyone play fallout 2 before fallout 1? it'd be interested to know which they think is better. fallout 2 is kinda spoiled by the fact it's a sequel and you discover the basics in fallout 1. i found the geck story line as believable as the water chip(which in both cases was just barely, i mean think about it).
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                              • #45
                                Ultima IV through VII

                                Baldur's Gate II

                                Planescape: Torment

                                I have yet to encounter a RPG I like better than these.

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