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  • If it gets much more complicated we might as well be playing a PBEM game of MOO2.
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    • And please Jam, don't ignore my questions. Can I stockpile shield generators?

      And another question. What if my defensive fleet was obliterated, but I sent some ships attacking and they were victorious. Do I still lose all of my bases or just one?
      Sorry, I missed one. I thought I answered them all.

      No, you can't stockpile shield generators.
      You would lose all your original and previously captured bases, I guess, but keep the one(s) you just captured. Of course you wouldn't even be able to build a Frigate then untill you built some new bases. Your hull size limit would be zero. You would basicially be screwed, but not dead.

      Spaced, you have no mercy.

      -Jam
      1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
      That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
      Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
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      • It would probably be better if weapons were weighted. For example, fighters were worth 3 torps, torps were worth 3 lasers, etc. (Note, I didn't check these to make sure the scissors paper rock system held). Quality should count, but 1 laser defeating 500 torpedos? I don't think so.
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        • Let's try not to make this too complex. It is after all text based.

          Right now there are 6 possible OoBs. For any given battle, there is the following chances:
          1/3: Total destruction of one fleet or the other (ie Smiley vs UR)
          1/6: Stalemate
          1/2: Moderate damage to both sides (ie Doc vs Duke)

          The best solution is to introduce a fourth weapon. We'll call the weapons, A,B,C,and D for simplicity. A stalemates with A, A beats B, A stalemates with C, A gets pwned by D. Then there will be 24 possible OoBs, with the following outcomes:
          1/12: Total destruction of one fleet or the other.
          (ABCD vs BCDA, DABC)
          1/24: Stalemate
          (ABCD vs ABCD)

          Rest: Damage of varying sizes inflicted.

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          We should also consider effects on game length though. Keeping casualties low could lead to very long games.
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          • Skanky has hit gold

            Instead of automatically beating, the value could be multiplied!

            Lasers are x3 vs Fighters
            Fighters are x3 vs Torpedoes
            Torpedoes are x3 vs Lasers

            Its the same game, but with less damage dealt, and less chance of crazy results.

            -Jam
            1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
            That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
            Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
            Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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            • Hooray!
              I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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              • Right now there are 6 possible OoBs. For any given battle, there is the following chances:
                1/3: Total destruction of one fleet or the other (ie Smiley vs UR)
                1/6: Stalemate
                1/2: Moderate damage to both sides (ie Doc vs Duke)
                Umm... no. Only if the fleets are exactly evenly matched.

                -Jam
                1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
                That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
                Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
                Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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                • True, but a 33% chance of complete destruction with matched teams is a bit strange. But let's keep plugging away and change some stuff later, maybe using Skanky's weighting.

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                  • to Skanky's idea.
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                    Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General Ludd

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                    • Hey, I have orders from everyone now. I'm about to eat my tea, expect the update in an hour or so.

                      Talk amongst yourselves a while.

                      -Jam
                      1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
                      That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
                      Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
                      Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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                      • So anyway, there I was with Billy Bob, and I says to him...
                        I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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                        • Eat your tea? Must be strong stuff.
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                          • Hey, I like Sknaky's idea too, but 3x seems too much, how about 2x.
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                            • /me hits Sapced with a fish.
                              I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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                              • Round 2 Results!

                                Round 2

                                Battle of Deepspace 12: Ludd attacks Ljcvetko!

                                Ludd: (Laser-Fighter-Torpedo)
                                3 fighter battleships
                                2 torpedo battleships
                                1 laser battleship.

                                Ljcvetko : (Lasers-Torpedoes-Fighters)
                                1 carrier dreadnought
                                1 torpedo dreadnought
                                1 laser dreadnought
                                2 carrier battleships
                                2 torpedo battleships
                                2 laser battleships

                                Ludd took a chance attacking Ljcvetko's bases, and his chance failed to pay off. Out gunned in every catagory, he still seemed to be winning the battle after the opening exchanges until Ljcvetko's fighters carried the day for him, leaving only one damaged ship to limp home...

                                Code:
                                Ludd     Ljcvetko
                                3 las    10 las   - Ludd takes 7 Hits
                                9 fig    10 torp  - Ljcvetko takes 9 Hits
                                6 torp   10 fig   - Ludd takes 10 Hits
                                Results:

                                Ludd takes 17 Hits destroying all his ships except 1 Torpedobattleship which limped away home damaged.

                                Ljcvetko takes 9 hits, destroying both Laserbattleships and one Torpedobattleship. He saves his base Deepspace12 from attack.

                                Battle of Enoch - Smiley attacks Ludd

                                Smiley: (Fighters-Lasers-Torpedoes)
                                4x Fighterbattleship
                                4x Laserbattleship
                                4x Torpedobattleship

                                Ludd: (Laser-Fighter-Torpedo)
                                1 Fighterbattleship
                                1 Torpedofrigate
                                1 Laserfrigate

                                ...the ship limped home to Enoch, where it was blown up in dock as Smiley's rampaging fleet arrived in the system. The few defenders died bravely,shooting down the first wave of fighters but only managed to scratch one of Smiley's Battleships in return. Smiley's lasers were not so forgiving, and his torpedoes were overkill.

                                Code:
                                Smiley    Ludd
                                12 fig    1 las   - Smiley takes 1 Hit
                                12 las    3 fig   - Ludd takes 12 Hits
                                12 torp   1 torp  - Ludd takes 11 Hits
                                Results:

                                Smiley takes damage to one of his Fighterbattleships.
                                Ludd's tiny defensive fleet is totally smashed, and Smiley takes control of his bases.

                                General Ludd is eliminated.

                                Everyone else was building away like beavers. Skanky reached the base limit with "Tequila" and Duke built a base but neglected to name it. The crew dubbed it "X" and the name stuck. He then tried to repeat his trick of building a ship a size larger than allowed, but his engineers failed and only made a Dreadnought. The extra materials were refunded to his stockpile.

                                Full report coming WITH SHIP LIST!

                                -Jam
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                                1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
                                That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
                                Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
                                Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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