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Well if you hadn't agreed an alliance with , then your two fleets should fight afterwards, yes. And if his ships were damaged in the first fight then unlucky for him.
I favour playing on, since restarting now will inevitably just lead to other things coming up.
As for turn order Duke's attack is fine, since he built the base on turn 1, then ships + attack on me turn 2. I defended with ships built in turn 2, so it's fine. I also think it should be the case that bases/ships are built together, so that you must already have 5 bases to build the bigass ship.
As to GL's point I too think he should probably attack Smiley after Smiley took UR's bases. However it raises some questions, since a player could mop up after a fight and get all the spoils.
I am also wary of rules that depend on who sent their order first. These are never fair.
Perhaps the solution to both the final two problems is to randomise the order of attacks when 3 players are involved.
Crap, Duke is right. Ok, you can't build a 5th base and titans in the same turn, or a 4th base and dreadnoughts, but its done now. I shall keep a close eye on this in the future. If Doc thinks this is unfair, we can remove the damage on Base3.
Speaking of things gone wrong.... I think my fleet should of continued it's planned attack and tried to take the base from smiley, after he conquered it.
You sent orders to attack Urban *shrugs* And your captains were happy to let Smiley's ships do the fighting and sit back and watch, before falling falling on the survivors. Sadly there were no survivors, and your captains didn't have the urge to start a war without written orders...
Oh, and don't complain, you would probably have been pasted by Smiley
-Jam
1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
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As to GL's point I too think he should probably attack Smiley after Smiley took UR's bases. However it raises some questions, since a player could mop up after a fight and get all the spoils.
I am also wary of rules that depend on who sent their order first. These are never fair.
Perhaps the solution to both the final two problems is to randomise the order of attacks when 3 players are involved.
Like I said, Ludd ordered his ships to attack Urban, not to attack a specific base regardless of who occupied it. As for the "post first - fight last" rule, its a simple solution to the problem. Sometimes going first is better - as in this case, but sometimes going second is better, as would be the case had Urban won the fight taking heavy damage, for instance. There's no way to tell in advance whic will be the best result, meaning "post first - fight last" is just as "random" as rolling a dice.
-Jam
1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
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Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.
Originally posted by duke o' york
No Spikey, I build the extra base (the one that allowed me to build a dreadnought on turn 2) in turn 2 as well as the other ships.
In that case I call shenanigans and demand both my Dreadnought and use of Base3's points this turn.
You wouldn't have killed my dreadnought if the rules were followed.
Well... Duke may have sent a Battleship and Frigate instead...
If its really an issue I can "rewind" the fight, restore all lost ships and give Duke the 4 BPs back for "the Dreadnought that never was"
Doc? Duke?
-Jam
1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
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Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.
Well if I couldn't have built a Dreadnought at that time then I wouldn't have taken the chance of making the game interesting and going after Doc. I would have simply built two bases instead of one, and a shield generator.
I'm not too bothered about winning or losing this game though, so I'll play on however you want to. I'll need to submit new orders for the next round though.
Ah, time for a GM ruling. The power, eh? I rule that we just play on. Its only a game. Doc gets full use of Base3, and Duke keeps his Dread.
And since Doc failed to train a spy/attack or build a shield generator in round 1, he can have one of them now (even though its really too late) - as long as he agrees not to complain.
Everyone happy? Good
I await the trauma of round 2...
-Jam
1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.
At least, I may have sent the orders in. I wouldn't be surprised if the number of times I have sent it fell between 0 to 6 inclusive. Let me know if they got through, Jam.
I wonder what is up with Poly.
I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).
Duke built a Dread he couldn't be abuildin', and got a draw with Doc, damageing Doc's base. I've removed the damage from Doc's base, but let Duke keep the Dread, as it was an honest misunderstanding.
In addition Doc forgot to send his "action orders" (i.e. build spy etc) last turn, so I'll let him do it now to "take the bad taste out of his mouth"
And everyone's happy
I got your orders Skanky
-Jam
1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.
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