GENERAL: CTP2 Source Code Cafe

[Gilgamensch]

Originally posted by Solver
Oh true, the days when 512 kb (not 500 ) was a limit were either beatiful, or a major pain, depends on how you look at it. At least, well, you couldn't have problems with 3000 source lines because you wouldn't fit that much code anyway . I will though admit that I haven't written programs with those limits, although I did run some shameless experiements on compiling 16-bit COM exeuctables just recently.

OK, I admit I rounded a bit, didn't want to scare people to much.......
3000 source lines nope I think the limit was something like 2000 lines, just because of memory for the editor............

As I said: sweet old times.........

[Gilgamensch]

Originally posted by Locutus
It seems Gilg is one of those technical gurus who couldn't explain something in terms mortal beings can understand if he wanted to I see a lot of those people around me so I can always spot them right away

Solver is not quite that far gone yet

I tried to say it as easy as possible ............. Is it my problem that such things are a bit complex??????????

But by the way: such things are most of the time easier to explain face to face..........or via chats......

[Solver]

Originally posted by Locutus
It seems Gilg is one of those technical gurus who couldn't explain something in terms mortal beings can understand if he wanted to I see a lot of those people around me so I can always spot them right away

Solver is not quite that far gone yet

No, I am *no more* like that. I unfortunately have to deal very often with people who have a hard time understanding even the simplest computer concepts, so I had to learn to explain things very plainly for them, but I sure prefer complex explanations . Heck, I should get a prize for my explanation of various file types, file associations and such, that was really good of me .

[Solver]

But by the way: such things are most of the time easier to explain face to face..........or via chats......

Nah, a simple what does a compiler mean can be explained quite well this way - as for details of how a compiler works, why it's needed in the first place, and how is an object file different from an executable... agreed, I'd also find those easier to explain face to face .

[Locutus]

Didn't we have a MULE fan in this community? CoT or Gilg or someone? Can't quite remember who but I know there's someone. Anyway, this person (or persons, if he's not alone), might want to check out this thread.

[Keygen]

I think OnePresent will get a bit confused with all these posts
An explanation how programming works:

A computer program (that is what CtP2 is and all computer games) is written in a programming language. There are several programming languages, each one with specific orientation.

Visual Basic for example is mainly used for RAD (Rapid Application Development) which mean it is fast and simple but lucks the power of other languages. It is used for developing programs exclusively for the Windows operating system (I am not current with VB so I might be wrong in this last one). HTML, the language most webpages are written in is a language created specifically for the World Wide Web and used to instruct a web browser how to render a webpage and how it will look in the screen. C++, wich is the language CtP2 is written in, is a generic one but powerful enough to be used in a wide range of applications. It is the favorite language of the gaming industry. It offers more control than Visual Basic does.

These programming languages are written in a text form, quite similar to a spoken language but with a small vocabulary compared to spoken languages and a strict syntax. This text can be written in a simple text editor like the notepad of the Windows but it is used to be written in specialized programs, like Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 (the editor used to originally write CtP2), that have the necessary tools to aid you to write and edit this text more efficiently. This text is what is called the "code" or more accurately "source code".

The compiler is another tool, found in most fore mentioned speciallized programs or as stand-alone. In C++, it checks the syntax of your code and if it finds it correct it produces an object file wich contains machine code (binary form, combinations of bits of 1 and 0 that computers can understand), linker directions and other useful information. In this stage the result is not an executable program. Here's where the linker is involved. It links the object(s) file(s) with any libraries ("ready" code of common tasks like the output of a word in the screen) that had been included in the code (they are used a lot in C++ so that you don't have to re-write code for common tasks from the beginning).

That is how a program is made as long as I can remember but since it has been some time since I last coded I might have forgotten something

[OnePresent]

Wonderful! I think I might have learned something.

Thanks to everyone for their replies.

[child of Thor]

Originally posted by Locutus
Didn't we have a MULE fan in this community? CoT or Gilg or someone? Can't quite remember who but I know there's someone. Anyway, this person (or persons, if he's not alone), might want to check out this thread.

Yeah im a MULE fan - but the same problems i have with playing CTP2 MP over the net apply; the only times you see me at poly is when im at work, so i cant commit time to playing

And Gilg - i think any confusion over people's tech speak here at poly is understandable, after all we mostly post in English, which is not most peoples native language - heck its mine but i cant even spell properly!

[Gilgamensch]

Originally posted by child of Thor




Yeah im a MULE fan - but the same problems i have with playing CTP2 MP over the net apply; the only times you see me at poly is when im at work, so i cant commit time to playing

And Gilg - i think any confusion over people's tech speak here at poly is understandable, after all we mostly post in English, which is not most peoples native language - heck its mine but i cant even spell properly!

I am a MULE fan as well, but long time ago, I played......

And not sure it will work from here........

The discussion Solver and me had, was just about some minor details of evolvement with compilers, nothing serious

And by the way, for your native language, you are not doing bad Could be better though, but .........

Top of my head: As our worst native 'speaker', I would announce BigMC as the winner. (no offense meant) And acutally myself as the worst german native speaker

[The Big Mc]

Top of my head: As our worst native 'speaker', I would announce BigMC as the winner. (no offense meant) And acutally myself as the worst german native speaker

Thank you for the award I would like to thank my psychiatrist, teachers and Magret Thatcher for coking up the educational system.

[Gilgamensch]

Originally posted by The Big Mc
Thank you for the award I would like to thank my psychiatrist, teachers and Magret Thatcher for coking up the educational system.

Your psychiatrist??????????????? For what enabled your multiple personality?

We think we here something But it ain't english..........

[child of Thor]

Originally posted by The Big Mc
......... and Magret Thatcher for coking up the educational system.

Now i know my she had some supporters - they were all drug addicts!!

And please - could you both promise never to debate(between the two of you) life or death subjects online(just in case you ever do), that way nothing unfortunate will happen

[The Big Mc]

Originally posted by child of Thor

Now i know my she had some supporters - they were all drug addicts!!

You struggle with English too.

[child of Thor]

you were too fast for my correction - thats what happens when you rush......

Its the things like the 'ing'+'ness' endings that get me, and if really has 2 l's or 1 like realy? 2 l's looks better?

But i always was a bad speller at school - so i wasn't making fun

your typo on coking in schools was just too funny to not pass comment on

[Solver]

... in specialized programs, like Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 (the editor used to originally write CtP2)

I'm not sure, but hasn't it been said that CtP2 was built under version 5.0?