Apolyton Hall of Fame: September 2004

[Locutus]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
Everyone in the top 20 would have gotten in eventually regardless of merit.

Well, isn't that the point? As far as I could tell, pretty much everyone in the top 20 deserved to be in (with the exception of maybe one or two OTers, but what are you ever gonna do about that?)

and what I feel sad and worried about is that when the year turns over- the Civ III players may acquire THREE votes per turn- I'm still working out the vote point allocation, but if they receive three, then basically only Civ III players will be elected because of the sizable contingent.

And thus, neither myself, nor Wombat will ever make it into the hall

Exactly as it was before with the OT...

There's a structural problem with the HoF as it stands and that problem has existed ever since its inception: it's not balanced. At first, only OTers could make it in because you only held it in the OT, now only people from big communities can make it in because they accumulate the most votes (e.g. a popular CtP2 poster like Hexagonian or WesW will accumulate at most 20 points per round and a popular SMACer maybe 10-15 points, while a popular OTer or Civ3er currently accumulates 30-40 points per round -- no amount of resetting will ever allow more than a handful of people who don't post in the OT or Civ3 forums to get inducted).

The solution, as I've said in the past, would be to have HoF nominations per category. Have one for Civ3, one for Civ2, one for CtP, one for OT, etc. And then a general one for communities too small/young to warrant their own category. You'll probably also want to keep track of people who get votes in multiple categories there, so people who get a few points here and a few points there still have a shot at being inducted...

[Locutus]

Originally posted by DarkCloud

Well there's hundreds of bens.

Name 10...

Regardless, there's only one of any kind of significance.

And can you please adapt my vote, as I'm still registered as having voted for Ben Kenobi

[J Bytheway]

For what it's worth:

WesW
Immortal Wombat
Hexagonian

[DarkCloud]

Well, isn't that the point? As far as I could tell, pretty much everyone in the top 20 deserved to be in (with the exception of maybe one or two OTers, but what are you ever gonna do about that?)

Just making sure we are on the same page here- I was talking about top 20 on the voting chart, not the members list.

The solution, as I've said in the past, would be to have HoF nominations per category. Have one for Civ3, one for Civ2, one for CtP, one for OT, etc. And then a general one for communities too small/young to warrant their own category. You'll probably also want to keep track of people who get votes in multiple categories there, so people who get a few points here and a few points there still have a shot at being inducted...

I'll consider this, but what do we do about posters who 'cross-post' in many different areas?

And can you please adapt my vote, as I'm still registered as having voted for Ben Kenobi

It's fixed in my records... It'll probably be fixed in the update.

[DarkCloud]

right now, if we were going with the old stats: (just eyeballing the stats)

The only changes are myself and IW.

alexman would be 1st
I would be 2nd
Immortal Wombat/Spiffor would be 3rd.

El Awrence would be 4th.

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Here's the real stats:

1. El Awrence- (36) 37---73
2. Spiffor- (39) 30---69
3. alexman (48) 20--68

Solo- (42) 19--61

DarkCloud- (30) 29—59

Kramsib- (30) 27—57

Berzerker- (23) 33--56

WesW- (30) 20--50

Master Zen- (20) 29--49

Samson- (26) 18---44

Fez/Giancarlo- (29) 13-- 43

Ted Striker- (19) 24--42

Theseus- (25) 15--40
loinburger- (18) 22---40

OzzyKP- (19) 18---37

Immortal Wombat- (21) 14--35

[Locutus]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
Just making sure we are on the same page here- I was talking about top 20 on the voting chart, not the members list.

Indeed. After the last edition, the top 20 looked like this:

DarkCloud- (86) 30---116
alexman (62) 40---102
Immortal Wombat- (86) 14---100
Spiffor- (61) 33----94
Fez/Giancarlo- (62) 29---92
El Awrence- (55) 33---88
Googlie- (60) 23--83
korn469- ---- (67) 16---83
Sprayber - (78) 4---82
Urban Ranger- (74) 6---80
MLeonard- -----(67) 10--77
Dr Strangelove- (64) 10---74
Kramsib-(45) 29---74
Master Zen- (53) 19---72
WesW- (54) 17---71
Catt- (58) 11--69
Theseus- (47) 21---68
Alinestra Covelia (58) 10---67
Shi Huangdi- (53) 11---64
Harlan- (42) 15---57

With the exception of Fez and maybe Sprayber, I'd say all those people deserve to be in the HoF.

I'll consider this, but what do we do about posters who 'cross-post' in many different areas?

I thought about this for a while: the easiest solution is probably that if someone has votes in multiple categories, the points are all moved to the category where (s)he got the most points. So e.g. if Immortal Wombat gets 17 points in the CtP2 forum, 12 in Off Topic and 3 in Community, his OT and Community points are moved to the CtP2 category, giving him 32 points in that category.

It's fixed in my records... It'll probably be fixed in the update.

Okay, thanks.

[Immortal Wombat]

I'm going to be philosophical about it. It's all good, all I need to do is keep some sort of presence until 2009 and I might get in. That's cool, I have nothing better to do with the next 5 years.

[DarkCloud]

Hmm... I think Fez and Sprayber deserve to be in acutally.

I thought about this for a while: the easiest solution is probably that if someone has votes in multiple categories, the points are all moved to the category where (s)he got the most points. So e.g. if Immortal Wombat gets 17 points in the CtP2 forum, 12 in Off Topic and 3 in Community, his OT and Community points are moved to the CtP2 category, giving him 32 points in that category.

That's an interesting idea.
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About the reset again... I suppose on the level that everyone in the top 20 deserved to be in, the whole reset could be considered sort of senseless.

But If I'm going to reverse my decision I need to think of a way to finesse it without annoying anyone.

Especially if it results in myself getting elected when otherwise I wouldn't.

[DarkCloud]

hmm... this is strange:

LAST TIME
alexman (62) 40---102

THIS TIME
3. alexman (48) 20--68

Seems I gave him 8 points as a freebie...

[DarkCloud]

oh, locutus, on the OT thread I have a proposition along your lines- I would like some feedback on it please:
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Hmm... I've been toying with a modification of Locutus' suggestion and classifying posters into On-Topic and Off-Topic categories.

Regardless of votes received, I think it might be a good idea to limit Off-Topic inductees to one per every 2 on-topicers inducted each session.

I realize this might raise some controversy, but I also feel that it might help raise a more egalitarian feel about the hall.

The reason for doing this is twofold
1.) On Topic is why this site was created.
2.) Off-Topicers vastly outnumber/are registered longer than on topicers.

what would people's comments on this issue be?

If you'd like to defend it in the OT, please feel free, though I feel it will be unpopular

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http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=3309057#post3309057

[DarkCloud]

voting'll close in about 3 days more or less...

[DarkCloud]

thanks to all who voted!

and anyone who registered pre-2000 and is interested in serving on a Veteran's Committee to induct psoters who no longer post here- please PM me or state your interest in this thread.

[DarkCloud]

1) Current Standings (The Previous Votes’ add-ins are in brackets) a
These are all the people who made the last List, but were not elected.
(136 posters going into the election)

(205 Posters receiving votes

1. Solo- [29] (42) 45---117
2. El Awrence- [35] (36) 45---116
3. Spiffor- [34] (39) 43---116

alexman [16] (40) 59--105

Samson- [34] (26) 41---102

Kramsib- [37] (30) 32—100

DarkCloud- [26] (30) 37—93

Googlie- [23] (27) 35---85

Immortal Wombat- [37] (21) 23—81

Master Zen- [26] (20) 32—78

Berzerker- [7] (23) 43--72
Theseus- [12] (25) 35—72

WesW- [16] (30) 24--70
Fez/Giancarlo- [12] (29) 18-- 70

Jasev- [31] (16) 16--63

Yaroslav- [27] (18) 13--60

Harlan- [27] (19) 13--- 59

Ted Striker- (19) 38--56
Skanky Burns-[15] (17) 23--56

Dr Strangelove- [18] (14) 20---52
Paddy the Scot- (25) 27---52

Dominae- [4] (19) 25—48

La Fayette- [4] (13) 30--47

OzzyKP- [9] (19) 18---46

Jamski- [9] (16) 20---45
Mr. Ogre- [36] (6) 3---45

loinburger- [4] (18) 22---44

Togas- [16] (20) 7---43

Urban Ranger- [29] (6) 6---41

Dr Spike- [13] (7) 20--40
Sagacious Dolphin/Big Crunch/Dauphin- [19] (11) 9--40

MLeonard- -----[14] (10) 15---39

Alinestra Covelia [14] (10) 14---38

Malevolent Light- [8] (14) 15—37
Kassiopeia- [10] (10) 17---37

MrWhereItsAt- [14] (16) 4---34

korn469- ---- [11] (16) 6—33
Shi Huangdi- [10] (13) 10---33
Zeus_of_Olimpos- [4] (25) 4---33

Hexagonian- [5] (6) 20---31

Pekka- [3] (10) 16---29

Azazel (Dalgetti)- [6] (12) 10--28
st_swithin- [25] (3)---28
MrFun- [7] (11) 10---28
Molly Bloom- [12] (2) 14---28

Beta- [14] (3) 10--27
Tiamat- (14) 13---27
Ogie Oglethorpe- [6] (7) 15---27

deity- [10] (8) 7--25

The Slayer- (24)
Catt- [8] (15)—24
Arrian [4] (12) 8---24

vmxa1---[3] (12) 8—23
Techumseh- [11] (4) 8---23
Wittlich- [6] (14) 3---23
Sn00py- [10] (6) 7---23

ChrisiusMaximus- [3] (10) 9---22
Pyaray- [19] (3)---22
Chilean President---[4] (16) 2--22

Solver- (13) 8---21
Sprayber – [13] (4) 4---21
UberKrux- [7] (14)-- 21

cavebear- [10] (8) 2—20
Oerdin- [9] (3) 8--20

Comrade Tassadar- [4] (10) 5---19
Frustrated Poet- [5] (8) 6—19

GePap- [6] (2) 10---18
GhengisFarb- [13] (5)—18
Agathon---[3] (4) 11--18

Jon Miller- [8] (7) 2---17
Snowflake/HongHu- [1] (3) 13---17

CivNation (AKA DefensorFidei)- [8] (4) 4---16

Lefty Scaevola- (11) 4---15
SlowThinker-(9) 6---15
vondrack- [3] (10) 2--15
Sava- [3] (12)--15

MariOne- [5] (9)--14

SKILORD- [3] (8) 2---13
PLATO- [3] (7) 3—13

Drake Tungsten- 12
Rommel2D- 12
Post Count Zero- [4] (4) 4---12
MarkusF- [4] (4) 4---12

David Floyd- [4] (7)---11
Sikander- (11)
Dissident- 11
Kaak- [6] (1) 4---11

Venom- [3] (7)—10
Lincoln- [4] (4) 2—10
Ned- 10
Quinns----[6] (4)—10
Drogue- [4] (2) 4---10
Arnelos- [2] (8)---10

vovan- (7) 2---9
Fried-Psitalon- [4] (3) 2---9
Frankychan- [6] (3)---9
Zopperoni---[7] (2)---9

Tau Ceti- (8)
finbar- [3] (2) 3—8
Boann- (4) 4---8
Mercator- 8
Kody- [1] (3) 4—8
fairline- 8

E_T- (7)
Ljube-Ljcvetko- 7
Archaic- [3] (4)---7
Theben- 7
Aqualung71- 7

alva- (4) 2---6
Exile- 6
Coracle-(3) 3---6
devilmunchkin- [3] (3)---6
Frozzy- [2] (4)---6
100. Crimson Sunrise- [3] (3) ---6
Bongo- (3) 3--6
civman2000- [3] (3)---6

ducki- (5)
Jaguar- (2) 3---5
mindseye- (2) 3---5
Keygen- (2) 3---5
joncha- (2) 3—5
Aeson- [2] (3)—5
Hydro- 5

Lorizael- (4)
Mr Baggins- (4)
Rasputin- (4)
monolith94- (4)
BaronO- (4)
Smash- (4)
Blake- 4
Dale- [2] (2)---4
Eli- 4
Red Trotskyite- 4
TheBirdMan- [2] (2)---4
Guynemer- 4
nbarclay- 4
curtsibling- 4
Niessuh- (2) 2—4
academia- 4
tnapoleon- 4
GeoModder- 4
Darsnan- 4
WRW- [1] (3)--4

hemical Ollie- (3)
raingoon- (3)
Lonestar- (3)
jimmytrick- (3)
CharlesBHoff- (3)
Gramphos- (3)
Verto- 3
Winston- 3
Serb- 3
Whaleboy- 3
Martin Gühmann- 3
Wigalf- 3
Makeo- 3
Natalinasmpf- 3
Gerar Dean- (2) 1---3
Smiley- 3
Adaigo- 3
Ari Rahikkala- 3

Sir Ralph-(2)
Elephant- (2)
Rhothaerill- (2)
Darius- (2)
CerberusIV-(2)
136. Flubber- (2)
Bloody Monk- 2
Kurious- 2
Harry Tuttle- 2
Rasbelin- 2
fanes7-2
DeepO- 2
Lawrence of Arabia- 2
Ben Kenobi- 2
Heresson- 2
jshelr- 2
El Mencey- 2
Buster- 2
happysunshine- 2


2) Who voted for Whom

-Jrabbit voted for: Bloody Monk (2), Berzerker (2), Solo (2)
aaglo voted for: Skanky Burns (3), Immortal Wombat (3), Kassiopeia (3)
academia voted for: El Awrence (3), Jasev (3), Master Zen (3)
Adagio voted for: HongHu (3), Ljube-Ljcvetko (3), Skanky Burns (3)
Agathon voted for: Spiffor (2), Molly Bloom (2), Ted Striker (2)
alexman voted for: Dominae (4), Rommel2D (4), Theseus (4)
Alinestra Covelia voted for: Googlie (3), Hydro (3), Harlan (3)
Alva voted for: Dauphin (3), Dissident (3), Frustrated Poet (3)
amidala voted for: Master Zen (2), Kramsib (2), El Awrence (2)
Andemagne voted for: DarkCloud (4), Pekka (4), Kassiopeia (4)
Arnelos voted for: alexman (2), dominae (2), togas (2)
Arrian voted for: alexman (3), Theseus (3), Dominae (3)
Asher voted for: Ted Striker (4), Loinburger (4), Spiffor (4)
Azazel voted for: Spiffor (3), Pekka (3), Giancarlo (3)
Ben Kenobi voted for: Solo (2), cavebear (2), Shi Huangdi (2)
Berzerker voted for: Ted Striker (4), Agathon (4), Ogie Oglethorpe (4)
Beta voted for: alexman (2), Paddy the Scot (2), vondrack (2)
Bloody Monk voted for: Solo (3), Samson (3), La Fayette (3)
bongo voted for: Paddy the Scot (4), Rommel2d (4), Aqualung71 (4)
Boshko voted for: Berzerker (4), loinburger (4), Shi Huangdi (4)
Brtndr4u voted for: Mleonard (3), Giancarlo (3), Tiamat (3)
Carloquillo voted for: Kramsib (2), Chilean President (2), Jasev (2)
Changmai Beagle voted for: Hexagonian (4), alexman (4), Sn00py (4)
chegitz guevara voted for: Giancarlo (3), Ned (3), Wigalf (3)
Chilean President voted for: El Awrence (3), Master Zen (3), Kramsib (3)
Chrisius Maximus voted for: Paddy the Scot (2), SKILORD (2), Vovan (2)
civman2000 voted for: DarkCloud (3), Togas (3), MasterZen (3)
Cold Wizard voted for: OzzyKP (3), Malevolent Light (3), Berzerker (3)
conmcb25 voted for: Beta (2), Togas (2), MrWhereItsAt (2)
curtsibling voted for: Exile (3), fairline (2), Harry Tuttle (2)
Cyrion voted for: Yaroslav (2), curtsibling (2), fairline (2)
DarkCloud voted for: Urban Ranger (3), El Awrence (3), Googlie (3)
Darsnan voted for: Googlie (3), Ogie Oglethorpe (3), Oerdin (3)
Dauphin voted for: Dissident (4), Ted Striker (4), Drake Tungsten (4)
David Floyd voted for: Berzerker (4), Tiamat (4), Lefty Scaevola (4)
DaveV voted for: LaFayette (4), Solo (4), Samson (4)
DAVOUT voted for: Spiffor (2), Molly Bloom (2), GePap (2)
debeest voted for: samson (3), solo (3), La Fayette (3)
Dissident voted for: Berzerker (3), Tiamat (3), Ted Striker (3)
Dominae voted for: alexman (2), Theseus (2), vmxa1 (2)
Drogue voted for: Spiffor (2), Rasbelin (2), Jamski (2)
DrSpike voted for: Jamski (3), Skanky Burns (3), Dauphin (3)
Dr Strangelove voted for: Azazel (4), Eli (4), Guynemer (4)
duke o’york voted for: Spiffor (3), Berzerker (3), El Awrence (3)
*El Awrence voted for: Jasev (4), Kramsib (4), Master Zen (4)
el mencey voted for: El Awrence (2), Kramsib (2), Master Zen (2)
Elephant voted for: Samson (2), Solo (2), Mercator (2)
FlameFlash voted for: Googlie (3), Adaigo (3), Keygen (3)
FrustratedPoet voted for: Skanky Burns (2), Dr Spike (2), alva (2)
g5harrison voted for: Academia (1), Gerar Dean (1), Kramsib (1)
GePap voted for: DarkCloud (3), Spiffor (3), Loinburger (3)
Gerar Dean voted for: El Awrence (2), Kramsib (2), MasterZen (2)
Gigante Verde voted for: El Awrence (1), Master Zen (1), Kramsib (1)
Grigor voted for: Solo (3), Samson (3), La Fayette (3)
Harry Tuttle voted for: Curt Sibling (2), Fariline (2), Yaroslav (2)
hexagonian voted for: WesW (4), Immortal Wombat (4), Solver (4)
Hercules voted for: Googlie (2), Snowflake (2), Darsnan (2)
Heresson voted for: joncha (3), Winston (3), Azazel (3)
Hydey voted for: Deity (3), finbar (3), makeo (3)
Illuminatus voted for: Googlie (2), Darsnan (2), Hydro (2)
Immortal Wombat voted for: WesW (3), Hexagonian (3), MrOgre (3)
Imran Siddiqui voted for: Spiffor (4), Ted Striker (4), MrFun (4)
ixnay voted for: DarkCloud (4), loinburger (4), Fez (4)
Jaguar voted for: Spiffor (3), Theseus (3), Ted Striker (3)
Jamski voted for: Skanky Burns (2), DrSpike (2), HongHu (2)
Japher voted for: Oerdin (2), DarkCloud (2), MrFun (2)
jasev voted for: El Awrence (3), Kramsib (3), Academia (3)
Jay Bee voted for: El Awrence (4), Jasev (4), Yaroslav (4)
J Byetheway voted for: WesW (3), Immortal Wombat (3), Hexagonian (3)
JCG voted for: Master Zen (2), Kramsib (2), El Awrence (2)
jm_ruiz voted for: El Awrence (2), Niessuh (2), Kramsib (2)
joncha voted for: Spiffor (2), Fez (2), Herresson (2)
JohnT voted for: Immortal Wombat(4), Agathon (4), Ogie Oglethorpe (4)
Jon Miller voted for: Zeus_of_Olimpos (4), Civnation (4), Post Count Zero (4)
Jonny voted for: Smiley (3), DrSpike (3), Skanky Burns (3)
Justinianum voted for: Mercator (2), Fairline (2), Yaroslav (2)
Kassiopeia voted for: Googlie (3), Alinestra Covelia (3), Immortal Wombat (3)
Kelzad voted for: Kramsib (2), El Mencey (2), El Awrence (2)
Konquest02 voted for: Theseus (2), Arrian (2)
Kramsib voted for: El Awrence (3), Jasev (3), Yaroslav (3)
Krill voted for: alexman (2), jshelr (2), DeepO (2)
Kuciwalker voted for: Jaguar (3), Comrade Tassadar (3), Verto (3)
La Fayette voted for: Solo (3), Samson (3), SlowThinker (3)
*Lazarus and the Gimp voted for: Chrisius Maximus (4), Alinestra Covelia (4), Molly Bloom (4)
lightblue voted for: Ted Striker (3), Loinburger (3), Pekka (3)
Ljube-ljcvetko voted for: Skanky Burns (2), Jamski (2), DrSpike (2)
Locutus voted for: WesW (4), Immortal Wombat (4), Harlan (4)
Lonestar voted for: Serb (3), Spiffor (3), Oerdin (3)
Mad Bomber voted for: alexman (2), Theseus (2), Arrian (2)
Main_Brain voted for: Jamski (2), Comrade Tassadar (2), vmxa1 (2)
MaleveolentLight voted for: Kaak (4), MarkusF (4), berserker (4)
Maquiladora voted for: WesW (3), Hexagonian (3), Martin Guhmann (3)
Makahlua voted for: Alexman (2), Dominae (2), Paddy the Scot (2)
Maniac voted for: Googlie (4), DarkCloud (4), GeoModder (4)
Manya voted for: El Awrence (2), Master Zen (2), Kramsib (2)
Martin Gühmann voted for: WesW (3), Immortal Wombat (3), Hexagonian (3)
McMeadows voted for: Alexman (4), Paddy the Scot (4), Rommel2D (4)
Mead voted for: Googlie (2), Buster (2), Kody (2)
Mercator voted for: tecumseh (4), Exile (4), Alinestra Covelia (4)
Method voted for: Kassiopeia (3), Immortal Wombat (3), Alinestra Covelia (3)
Micha voted for: Googlie (2), Kody (2), Snowflake (2)
mindseye voted for: Dr Strangelove (4), Molly Bloom (4), GePap (4)
Ming voted for: Berzerker (4), OzzyKP (4), Malevolent Light (4)
molly bloom voted for: Agathon (3), Whaleboy (3), Mindseye (3)
Monk voted for: Harlan Thompson (4)
monolith94 voted for: tnapoleon (4), Red Trotskyite (4), Mleonard (4)
Mr. Nice Guy voted for: Lincoln (2), Jon Miller (2), Ben Kenobi (2)
MrWhereItsAt voted for: alexman (3), Dominae (3), Paddy the Scot (3)
Ned voted for: Ogie Oglethorpe (4), Drake Tungsten (4), Blake (4)
Niessuh voted for: Master Zen (2), Kramsib (2), El Awrence (2)
Nikolai voted for: DarkCloud (3), DrSpike (3), korn469 (3)
oedo voted for: solo (3), spiffor (3), Ted Striker (3)
Ogie Oglethorpe voted for: Ned (4), Drake Tungsten (4), Berzerker (4)
Old n Slow voted for: La Fayette (2), Solo (2), samson (2)
OzzyKP voted for: Berzerker (4), MalevolentLight (4), Deity (4)
Paddy the Scot voted for: Chrisius Maximus (3), Bongo (3), Aqualung (3)
pchang voted for: Strangelove (4), Theben (4), Ted Striker (4)
Peaster voted for: Harlan (2), Samson (2), Solo (2)
PLATO voted for: Spiffor (2), nbarclay (2), vmxa1 (2)
Provost Harrison voted for: Big Crunch (3), Spiffor (3), Jamski (3)
rah voted for: Berzerker (4), Malevolent Light (4), OzzyKP (4)
Rasbelin votred for: Kassiopeia (4), Solver (4), Drogue (4)
Rhothaerill voted for: Beta (2), alexman (2), Theseus (2)
Richelieu voted for: Theben (3)
rjmatsleepers voted for: Solo (2), Samson (2), La Fayette (2)
Rommel2D voted for: Alexman (2), Dominae (2), Paddy the Scot (2)
Scouse Gits voted for: Solo (4), Samson (4), LaFayette (4)
Shogun Gunner voted for: Wittlich (3), Paddy the Scot (3), Beta (3)
Sirotnikov voted for: Sn00py (3), korn469 (3), Pekka (3)
Sir Ralph voted for: alexman (3), Theseus (3), Coracle (3)
Skanky Burns voted for: DrSpike (3), Jamski (3), FrustratedPoet (3)
SlowwHand voted for: Boann (4), Berzerker (4), Sprayber (4)
Snowflake voted for: Jamski (2), Skanky Burns (2), DrSpike (2)
solo voted for: Samson (3), LaFayette (3), SlowThinker (3)
Solomwi voted for: alexman (2), Theseus (2), Dominae (2)
Solver voted for: DarkCloud (4), WesW (4), Hexagonian (4)
Spaced Cowboy voted for: Skanky Burns (3), Jamski (3), DrSpike (3)
Sparrowhawk voted for: solo (4), Samson (4), La Fayette (4)
Spiffor voted for: Plato (3)l, Doc Strangelove (3), Azazel (3)
Stefu voted for: Ted Striker (4), loinburger (4), DarkCloud (4)
Straybow voted for: solo (4), Samson (4), googlie (4)
St Leo voted for: Tecumseh (4), Mercator (4), GePap (4)
Stuie voted for: alexman (3), Berzerker (3), Pekka (3)
Switch voted for: alexman (2), Theseus (2), vmxa1 (2)
Tall Stranger voted for: Alexman (2), Theseus (2), Dominae (2)
Ted Striker voted for: Dr. Strangelove (4), Berzerker (4), Dissident (4)
Theben voted for: HongHu (4), Jamski (4), Ljube-Ljcvetko (4)
The Emperor Fabulous voted for: Spiffor (4), Mleonard (4), MrFun (4)
Theseus voted for alexman (2), HappySunShine (2), fanes7 (2)
The Slayer voted for: Master Zen (2), Kramsib (2), El Awrence (2)
Trip voted for: DarkCloud (2), alexman (2), nbarclay (2)
unscratchedfoot voted for: Paddy the Scot (2), ChrisiusMaximus (2), Kurious (2)
Unspeakable Horror voted for: El Awrence (4), Master Zen (4), Dark Cloud (4)
Velociryx voted for: Googlie (4), Theseus (4), Arrian (4)
VJ voted for: Kassiopeia (3), Ari Rahikkala (3), Dr Strangelove (3)
Vlad Antlerkov voted for: Shi Huangdi (4), Theseus (4), Mleonard (4)
vmxa1 voted for: Urban Ranger (3), Dominae (3), alexman (3)
vondrack voted for: Fried-Psitalon (2), MrWhereItsAt (2), Dominae (2)
Wernazuma voted for: Natalinasmpf (3), Ned (3), Giancarlo (3)
Whaleboy voted for: Molly Bloom (2), Dr Strangelove (2), Lawrence of Arabia (2)
Wittlich voted for: Tiamat (3), Beta (3), Paddy the Scot (3)
Zenon voted for: Samson (2), Solo (2), La Fayette (2)

*Registered 1999

[DarkCloud]

The New Inductees

EL AWRENCE
Formerly known as Hodad, this Spanish Section Apolytoner was quite active in all of the Civ II sections and contributior to the Diplomacy games forum. He also frequented the OT in 2000 and provided fun in debates and other activities therein. He was also one of the founding members of the Spanish Civilization Forum. In recent years he has been most active in that section.

SPIFFOR
Civ3 player and all round nice OT Regular. Also French. and you know how hard it is to find a respectable Frenchman...

SOLO
Solo has long been active in CivII strategy forum and is the author of the Early Landing Strategy Guide. In addition to that, he discovered 16 turn city cycles governing automatic changes in city commodity supply and demand lists, and discovered numerous techniques to manipulate city commodity supply and demand, along with other strategic contributions to the Civ II community.

[Unspeakable Horror]

El Awrence!



Oh and the others too of course!
/me does the DL.. er... happy dance for Spiffor and Solo