[CREATION] How do you think a WW II Era only units would work?

[Maquiladora]

Historical is good, However, if anyone chooses America, they win, Great Britain they win

Germany they lose

Japan they lose

That was aproblem in several scenarios in CIV III Conquests I noted

Too strong of an alliance by many gave Germany no chance which of course kind of ucked if you wanted to be Germany and then knew come early 1944 you were done for period.

Just sharing as for the Historical aspect.

Exactly, that is why balance should come first. Germany and Japan will start with (generally) stronger forces and positions, but the Allies will have greater resources to use, if given time.

But as for settlers yes i say make an obsolesence advance, where after say a certain year you can not build them or advamnce

I think Settlers will have to be obsoleted or prevented with slic anyway, to stop the neutral AI cities building them.

Maybe each city comes with a Mill and factory or just a factory but a powerful factory to turn out units

Right now I have put buildings you would expect in each city, depending on size or importance in the war. There is still buildings left to build in each city though, and they'll be plenty to build once the bombarding and capturing starts, which will destroy more buildings.

China,America and Britain all fought against the Japanese in the Chinese-Burmese-India theatre of War

So historically, China would need to be grouped with the Allies, correct?

Yep.

Hopefully the scenario can be played in any way though. For example if it's played with a different human for each nation, perhaps the Soviet Union will sign a cease-fire with the Germans and attack China. Of course if China get's sandwiched between the SU and Japan it should be screwed, but for balance purposes they should be able to hold out for a long time against one of them.

[Grandpa Troll]

Sounds great so far Brother!

[quinns]

Yes, sounds good Maq! I like your approach.

[Grandpa Troll]

I so would love to be the Russians!

In many games The Tsar Trollnika rules The Motherland

[Maquiladora]

Just need to place the units and trade routes now.

I won't make any trade routes between allies at the start of the game, in case the players want to play it a different way. But I will place certain goods so extra monopolies can be created with your allies if the game goes that way (these routes will ideally need defending though). This way no ones trade income will be screwed, and the game can be balanced easier.

[Grandpa Troll]

Just need to place the units and trade routes now.

I won't make any trade routes between allies at the start of the game, in case the players want to play it a different way. But I will place certain goods so extra monopolies can be created with your allies if the game goes that way (these routes will ideally need defending though). This way no ones trade income will be screwed, and the game can be balanced easier.

Awesome!

[Maquiladora]

Everything is in place, now I just need to test the balance some more, and check it stays stable.

[Grandpa Troll]

Everything is in place, now I just need to test the balance some more, and check it stays stable.

Looking forward!

[Maquiladora]

Seems to be quite stable. The balance is OK, but I'm sure with further testing improvements can be made. So now I need a volunteer or two to test it with me.

If you can play at least a turn a day that would be good. The turns will be long from the start but the game won't last long, I'm guessing 5-10 turns to get a good test, maybe between 10-20 for a full game, but we may not play it all the way if changes are needed.

I'll be playing as the Commies. Turn order is thus:

Soviets
Japanese
Germans
Neutrals
Americans
British
Chinese

The AI crashes for some reason when it's in control, so for now the German player can just open the Neutrals save and quickly end turn, then send to the US player. This is the only crash I've encountered so far though.

[Grandpa Troll]

Seems to be quite stable. The balance is OK, but I'm sure with further testing improvements can be made. So now I need a volunteer or two to test it with me.

If you can play at least a turn a day that would be good. The turns will be long from the start but the game won't last long, I'm guessing 5-10 turns to get a good test, maybe between 10-20 for a full game, but we may not play it all the way if changes are needed.

I'll be playing as the Commies. Turn order is thus:

Soviets
Japanese
Germans
Neutrals
Americans
British
Chinese

The AI crashes for some reason when it's in control, so for now the German player can just open the Neutrals save and quickly end turn, then send to the US player. This is the only crash I've encountered so far though.

Send me a turn, Im down

Looking forward

We should start a thread as well, tell a storyline

[EPW]

Are there any player-made units that could be added?

[EPW]

Code for Date Message.

Under the assumption that there is no way to mod the date display, I wrote a bit of slic to pop up a message giving the date assuming 1 month/turn starting in December 1941.:


Out of date, see post 30.

Spoiler:

trigger 'TInitVars' when (g.player) {
	initial_year = g.year;
	last_checked_year = g.year;
	year = 1941;
	month = 12;
	DisableTrigger('TInitVars');
}

trigger 'WW2PBEM_Date' when (IsHumanPlayer(g.player)) {
	
	if(g.year > last_checked_year && g.year > initial_year) {
		if(month < 12)
		{
			month = month + 1;
		} elseif(month == 12) {
			month = 1;
			year = year + 1;
		}
		last_checked_year = g.year;
	}
	Message(g.player, 'Date');
}

messagebox 'Date' {
	if(month == 1) {
		SetString(1,ID_JANUARY);
	} elseif(month == 2) {
		SetString(1,ID_FEBRUARY);
	} elseif(month == 3) {
		SetString(1,ID_MARCH);
	} elseif(month == 4) {
		SetString(1,ID_APRIL);
	} elseif(month == 5) {
		SetString(1,ID_MAY);
	} elseif(month == 6) {
		SetString(1,ID_JUNE);
	} elseif(month == 7) {
		SetString(1,ID_JULY);
	} elseif(month == 8) {
		SetString(1,ID_AUGUST);
	} elseif(month == 9) {
		SetString(1,ID_SEPTEMBER);
	} elseif(month == 10) {
		SetString(1,ID_OCTOBER);
	} elseif(month == 11) {
		SetString(1,ID_NOVEMBER);
	} elseif(month == 12) {
		SetString(1,ID_DECEMBER);
	}
	
	if(year == 1941 || year == 0) {
		Text(ID_REAL_DATE_FO);
	} elseif(year == 1942) {
		Text(ID_REAL_DATE_FT);
	} elseif(year == 1943) {
		Text(ID_REAL_DATE_FTR);
	} elseif(year == 1944) {
		Text(ID_REAL_DATE_FF);
	} elseif(year == 1945) {
		Text(ID_REAL_DATE_FFI);
	}
	
	MessageType("INFECT_CITY");
}

You need to append that to scenario.slc and put scen_str.txt(attached) in ...\scenarios\WorldWar2PBEM\scen0000\default\gamed ata to get it to work.

I chose the infect city button since its not used in the scenario.

[Maquiladora]

Good idea This will definitely go into the next version (if there is one).

I noticed the title of the message was left empty so it would display the old date too. You can change this by adding Title(ID_WW2_TITLE); to the messagebox slic. In fact you could even use the title as the date because it's larger too. I guess this is possible.

Also is there a way to display it for the starting player, perhaps some other trigger just for the first turn could be made maybe.

[EPW]

Hmmm, is there an event for clicking a unit or city which could trigger it for the first turn(for player 1)?

I'll check out the Title thing

[EPW]

trigger 'WW2PBEM_NoSettlersAlive' when (unit.built && unit.type == UnitType("UNIT_SETTLER")) {
	KillUnit(unit);
}

trigger 'TInitVars' when (g.player || unit.selected) {
	initial_year = g.year;
	last_checked_year = g.year;
	year = 1941;
	month = 12;
	Message(g.player, 'The Date');
	DisableTrigger('TInitVars');
}

trigger 'WW2PBEM_Date' when (IsHumanPlayer(g.player)) {
	
	if(g.year > last_checked_year && g.year > initial_year) {
		if(month < 12)
		{
			month = month + 1;
		} elseif(month == 12) {
			month = 1;
			year = year + 1;
		}
		last_checked_year = g.year;
	}
	Message(g.player, 'The Date');
}

messagebox 'The Date' {
	if(month == 1) {
		SetString(1,ID_JANUARY);
	} elseif(month == 2) {
		SetString(1,ID_FEBRUARY);
	} elseif(month == 3) {
		SetString(1,ID_MARCH);
	} elseif(month == 4) {
		SetString(1,ID_APRIL);
	} elseif(month == 5) {
		SetString(1,ID_MAY);
	} elseif(month == 6) {
		SetString(1,ID_JUNE);
	} elseif(month == 7) {
		SetString(1,ID_JULY);
	} elseif(month == 8) {
		SetString(1,ID_AUGUST);
	} elseif(month == 9) {
		SetString(1,ID_SEPTEMBER);
	} elseif(month == 10) {
		SetString(1,ID_OCTOBER);
	} elseif(month == 11) {
		SetString(1,ID_NOVEMBER);
	} elseif(month == 12) {
		SetString(1,ID_DECEMBER);
	}
	
	if(year == 1941 || year == 0) {
		Title(ID_REAL_DATE_FO);
	} elseif(year == 1942) {
		Title(ID_REAL_DATE_FT);
	} elseif(year == 1943) {
		Title(ID_REAL_DATE_FTR);
	} elseif(year == 1944) {
		Title(ID_REAL_DATE_FF);
	} elseif(year == 1945) {
		Title(ID_REAL_DATE_FFI);
	}
	
	MessageType("INFECT_CITY");
        Show();
}

Version 2.1 released!

Show() added.