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[kstolzy]

Re: Terrain

Originally posted by Cuaich
Is there a reference shet somewhere giving the PW costs of such actions, as well as which terrain(s) are prohoboted from change?

I presume you speak of terraforming. I'm not aware of any such reference sheet. The cost can vary from 220PW for terraforming grassland to plains, to 9000PW to terraform glacier to mountain terrain. As you may already know, the cost depends on the starting and ending terrain and is indicated when you select the terrain you want from the tile improvements "terra" tab and place the cursor over the square you want to terraform. The icon turns red if it is not allowed (insufficient PW or lack of the required advance).

All (and only) land tiles can be terraformed with the with the required advance. They are indicated in the Great Library for each terrain through the "Terrain" button.

Too bad there isn't a "river" terraforming option, eh Grandpa Troll.

[J Bytheway]

I don't think the costs have ever been tabulated, but you can calculate them yourself by looking at the file

[Your CTP directory]\ctp2_data\default\gamedata\terrain.txt

Where, for example, you will see:

TERRAIN_GLACIER {
TERRAIN_TYPE_GLACIER

TERRAIN_DEFAULT_ICON    ICON_TERRAIN_GLACIERS
TRANSFORM_REMOVE        5       1000
TRANSFORM_ADD   5       4000
TRANSFORM_ADD_ADVANCE   ADVANCE_ADVANCED_COMPOSITES
TRANSFORM_REMOVE_ADVANCE        ADVANCE_ADVANCED_COMPOSITES

which tells you that the cost to remove glacier is 1000 and the cost to add it is 4000. To compute the cost of any given terraforming operation, add the cost of removing the old terrain to the cost of adding the new terrain.

[Cuaich]

Originally posted by J Bytheway
I don't think the costs have ever been tabulated, but you can calculate them yourself by looking at the file

[Your CTP directory]\ctp2_data\default\gamedata\terrain.txt

Where, for example, you will see:

TERRAIN_GLACIER {
TERRAIN_TYPE_GLACIER

TERRAIN_DEFAULT_ICON    ICON_TERRAIN_GLACIERS
TRANSFORM_REMOVE        5       1000
TRANSFORM_ADD   5       4000
TRANSFORM_ADD_ADVANCE   ADVANCE_ADVANCED_COMPOSITES
TRANSFORM_REMOVE_ADVANCE        ADVANCE_ADVANCED_COMPOSITES

which tells you that the cost to remove glacier is 1000 and the cost to add it is 4000. To compute the cost of any given terraforming operation, add the cost of removing the old terrain to the cost of adding the new terrain.

Thanks JB!! That's the Ticket right there! Now I'll be able to compete with GT's crazy-a$$ed maps. Who ever heard of a world with no oceans and so much glacier...bloody unhospitable, it (he) is...

You know, seriously, I've never been part of a group who knew their stuff inside and out as the Apolyton CTPers do, and are so ready and quick to reply. Thanks all!!



Cheers
Cuaich

[Cuaich]

Re: Re: Terrain

Originally posted by kstolzy

Too bad there isn't a "river" terraforming option, eh Grandpa Troll.

Hey Kstolzy...you certainly know GT, don't you? He's a river-munchin' fool...everywhere I go on this Hell-map we're playing, there he is, camped on some juicy squares on a river!

Thanks for the help.

Cuaich

[Grandpa Troll]

Re: Re: Re: Terrain

Originally posted by Cuaich


Hey Kstolzy...you certainly know GT, don't you? He's a river-munchin' fool...everywhere I go on this Hell-map we're playing, there he is, camped on some juicy squares on a river!

Thanks for the help.

Cuaich

Deliverence the movie coming to a CTP Game soon

actually the maps are designed and generated randomly..so I have minimal input

[Cuaich]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Terrain

Originally posted by Grandpa Troll


Deliverence the movie coming to a CTP Game soon

actually the maps are designed and generated randomly..so I have minimal input

Oh, I know you're creating them randomly...I'm sure there is some psychic control there though...are you not "One With Your CTP"?

[Grandpa Troll]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Terrain

Originally posted by Cuaich


Oh, I know you're creating them randomly...I'm sure there is some psychic control there though...are you not "One With Your CTP"?

yeah

thats why I said "minimal" as in my minimal mind control thingey

I mean I would never tweak anything or anyone but myself