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  • Sprayber,

    I've thought long and hard about the Quantum stuff.

    I'd like to state my reasons why it should be feasible and accessible to UCS.

    First, refer to my above post about scientists in real life, that succeeded in containing light in storage. We already have reflected light, bent light, split light with prisms, slowing down light, and so forth.

    So, why would no progress be made in these in 700 years? BAC is all about realism, correct? Well, having virtual no tech progression in 700 years with certain fields sounds ridiclious. It'd be like the Dark Ages all over again. Granted, factions are trying to find their footing, and Chiron was a mess.



    Lonestar stated that the Dosi aliens have singularity and energy shields. In addition correct me if I'm mistaken, but the Fraal, Gorn, Bree, and the advanced alien species should already have singularities, shielding, star gates, very fast FTL travel, etc.

    Ok. Now back to Humanity. All our current real life technology sprang up literally overnight in Human history. 200 years, from around 1800 to 2002 AD gave us electricity, nuclear power, guns, chemicals, computers, rocketry, lasers, factories, and so on. But we have almost 6,000 years of recorded history.

    Within the next 100 years will definitely bring about fusion power, more smart materials, more developed robotics, laser rifles, and so forth.

    200 years out of 6,000 is like overnight.

    So using this logic, it should be possible for Humanity to have singularities and force shields and the like, by 3000 AD.

    BAC now is in 2701, so Quantum technology should be feasible. In addition, I think I'm sure everyone agrees that Humanity will eventually reach singularity and force shields and these advanced technology at some point, and become another "advanced civilization" of the galaxy.



    I'm not saying I want Singularity now, or even within the next 10 years, or even 20. University presses on with research and technology, not concerned with military or economy like Sparta and Morganites are.


    What I'm going to do with the Quantum technology:

    1. enhance factory production

    2. try and develop new types of weaponary to counter any hostiles as described in Randius's musings in the story,

    3. better power generation for civil and military.

    4. Robotic units will be able to mount neutronium armor due to lighter computer cores and smaller power plants.

    5. the spaceships will have increased FTL speeds, to perhaps 25 light years a day with Quantum Power. For a good reference, needlejets and planet-busters have their range increased for each successive power technology. For example, a needlejet in SMAC could move 10 squares with fission, 12 with fusion, 14 with Quantum, and 16 with Singularity. This concept will be applied to the FTL drives, increasing range and speed.

    6. new sensors will be able to detect material and record things at the quantum level, which will give more detailed scans of previously "un-scannable" objects or "difficult-to-scan" objects. I.E. ruins on Berrik for example.

    7. greatly improved cloaking technology, by diverting light itself away from the ship, thereby diminishing tachyon scanners effectiveness, as well as difficult, if not impossible to get a "visual" on the ship. The ship would just "disappear" like a Romuluan Warbird or Klingon Bird-Of-Prey, since light is diverted or focused through the ship, instead of it hitting the ship.

    8. numerous advances in minor fields like better tranmissions, quantum data discs, and mostly better quality civilian stuff.


    I feel its about time BAC got the next level of "very important" technology. I think the last was probably FTL technology.


    Again, these are my logic and reasonings about Quantum technology. University already has Matter Compression, Nanominizuration, Nanometallurgy, Quantum Computers, AI Interface, AI Design, AI Entities, and so forth. It makes sense that Quantum would be the next in the tech tree.


    Laters,

    Academician Randius Zakharov
    Geniuses are ordinary people bestowed with the gift to see beyond common everyday perceptions.

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    • Sprayber-- Thanks! I was sure you'd understand!

      As for those logos...Man! It's a tough choice as to which I prefer...errr...how about the 2nd one on the top row? That looks best, I think.

      I'll PM you with what you can put up. It isn't too much as of yet. Maybe I'll write up some quotes for you to stick up on your page later as well. Thanks again!
      Empire growing,
      Pleasures flowing,
      Fortune smiles and so should you.

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      • CORRECTION!!!!!


        Whoops...make that the 1st on the top row!
        Empire growing,
        Pleasures flowing,
        Fortune smiles and so should you.

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        • Sprayber,


          Yeah, well, trust a Serb to know nothing of physics.
































          No Nikolai Tesla doesn't count!
          Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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          • No trouble at all History Guy. I'll get to it tonight.



            Sovereign: I understand what your saying. And I for one don't have a problem with you researching it and developing it. It will be interesting to read as the University researches it. But like I said earlier. Draw out the process. Write about some of the faliures in the program. Ships get lost all the time when new tech is being researched and implented. Maybe have story lines about compeating scientists that want to develope the tech. Maybe about engineers that are skeptical. All that is better than just one day appearing with the tech. I'm not saying you are would do that btw You can throw in a little intrigue with probe teams and Believer spies(with Silance's input) if you want.
            Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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            • Originally posted by History Guy
              CORRECTION!!!!!


              Whoops...make that the 1st on the top row!
              Got it
              Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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              • OK, Sprayber, thanks for expanding your site for the glory of Morgan Interstellar!

                I sent you everything via PM. Do what you will! It's your site! Go craaaaaazy!
                Empire growing,
                Pleasures flowing,
                Fortune smiles and so should you.

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                • Ok History. Ill get it all up there.


                  Does anyone want to use these pictures.

                  I had them but really dont have anything Spartan to do with them
                  Attached Files
                  Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                  • another one
                    Attached Files
                    Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                    • Talking about hypocrisy...i bring the ideas about having some minor races and previous agreements for barelyany alien interaction...boom! relations with teh Gorn? Bree? and then alien pics rip off from Master of Orion 3

                      Sovereign, I know your playing University, but like come on!!! since you started playing you were pushing higher and higher tech wise. Anyway, Quantum Computers would come before anyone figures out how to split a light particle. Already have Matter/Antimatter, have one of the fastest FTL drives (which again, it isn't just about how much power you put into it!!! also about how much a darn FTL drive can take. Hey, they said way back when that a computer of the future will be the size of a stadium to be very powerful....well,look at that, computer sizes shrunk instead while getting faster and better), tachyon bolts, neutronium armor, and etc................. Your becoming quite greedy. Fields and Applications is two different thing too

                      True faction are already playing around with Quantum Physics...as the FTL drive does create the Quantum Tunneling effect.

                      Anyway, this technology problem is one of the things making BAC unstable.

                      -Mellian

                      ...hate being ignored...

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                      • Originally posted by Mellian
                        Talking about hypocrisy...i bring the ideas about having some minor races and previous agreements for barelyany alien interaction...boom! relations with teh Gorn? Bree? and then alien pics rip off from Master of Orion 3

                        .
                        Who has relations with the Gorn and Bree?

                        Sparta? Not that I'm aware of

                        Morgan? Only race is the one made up by History

                        University? Not Gorn Bree relationship

                        Hive? Same exact relationship that they have had since the beginning

                        Drone? Haven't read anything except the temple story. And so far I haven't seen any life aliens.

                        Believer? nothing yet

                        Protectorate? Haven't heard of any recent talk of Gorn Bree alliances.

                        those pictures are for primitive races. If you want a primitive race then you can do whatever you want. We can't have everything you want right now. If you would like to bring the Progenators in, fine, but not right now. There are just a few things that need to be taken care of first don't you think?
                        Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                        • Ok, I forget whose addressed me so I'll just "shoot-from-the-hip",

                          History Guy- Morgan's still the charmer, eh? From his message to Yang it sounds like his demeanor hasn't changed much in dealing with heads-of-state.

                          Anyway, Yang recognizes Morgan's intention of lulling his enemies. The reply will be the typical, gruff Hive reply. Greetings and underlying threats will be included in the response.

                          As for this whole "technology debate", leave me out! I have absolutely NO CLUE to what you guys are talking about seeing that the subject matter is waaay over my head. My field of study is psychology and criminal sociology, not physics, astronomy, and engineering!

                          And no, Mellian I'm not ignoring you! Its just that I don't understand the technology debate you guys are talkin' 'bout. The alien stuff will remain in the "second tier" to the human plotline. We're just trying to establish what they look like and minor tidbits so the aliens aren't left in the void.

                          For the website issue-

                          If you guys need help, I'll try see what I can do. Posting pics, linking to sites, or writing basic HTML code. All that other fancy gobbley-gook I don't know...I had to teach myself how to do even basic stuff.

                          *NOTICE* Finals is coming up for me and I have a smackload of work that needs to be done (building webpages for class, finishing my French workbook, etc.etc). Therefore, it might take longer for me to respond to you guys and my posts may come more infrequently than normal

                          Just giving you guys and gals the heads-up.
                          Despot-(1a) : a ruler with absolute power and authority (1b) : a person exercising power tyrannically
                          Beyond Alpha Centauri-Witness the glory of Sheng-ji Yang
                          *****Citizen of the Hive****
                          "...but what sane person would move from Hawaii to Indiana?" -Dis

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                          • You know what.

                            Make a list of everything you would like Mellian. From 1 to whatever and post it. Be detailed if you like or leave it vague.
                            Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                            • Originally posted by Lonestar
                              Sprayber,
                              Yeah, well, trust a Serb to know nothing of physics.

                              No Nikolai Tesla doesn't count!
                              Hey!

                              f you though the tone I used was offencive, then I am sorry. OK?

                              Plus I hate Star Wars...

                              And leave Nikola Tesla (hey another Nikola ) alone! He nearly beat that Italian scientist for the patent for the radio...

                              --Nikola
                              ... This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality...
                              ... Pain is an illusion...

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                              • Originally posted by Mellian

                                ...hate being ignored...

                                That's because you ain't being coherant Babe.
                                Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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