Beyond Alpha Centauri:::: Discussion Thread 4

[Sprayber]

Ok guys. Time for a new thread.



Thanks LMP for letting us know a little before hand on stealing some more of our ships.

If Sparta offered to build the Pirates a shipyard, could they be pursuaded to actually build their own ships from now on?

[Mellian]

I am sure no one likes to loose anything to the Pirates and even harder of the specific attacks by the Kane Bloc in the past decade too... like that one is for the Droids, planning to maybe develop a version where it can replace most of the crew jobs of a ship, freeing up humans for more ships. Manpower is an issue for Pirates, as they don't have huge population centers to recruit from... except maybe the Nautilus Pirate clan, only one located on a planet...Chiron. Anyway, would be obvious to anyone who analyses the specific attacks and puts it two and two together.... Kane can become quite powerful, especially if he succeeds in uniting most of the Pirate clan pirate style especially when you are good friends with the Data Angels

The Pirates can potentionally be quite an pain to the Morganites, Spartans and Drones if they get more involve in the war with TA...as it would leave openings elsewhere for raiding and so on.

[Mellian]

The Wolverine Clan as established their own ship yard or two somewhere.... and the Nautilus Pirate Clan as several around Chiron. It is not having enough ships is the problem, it is trained manpower right now.

-LMP

[History Guy]

Yes Silence, on the double quick!

[Mellian]

LordMP-- Was I supposed to write a response from the Novans??

No

Now, as for Naxos, who will write the opening post on the attack there, and the fall of Samnos?

I will i guess....

Silence-- That's good, send your men down here quickly. You already have squadrons in the Pollux system that'll reach here before the second and third systems fall, and so they and my garrison and Sprayber's boy there can stem the tide somewhat.

I really doubt the battles will last a few days average chiron FTL speed is 10ly/day...and if the Corperate Sector is north of Sol, that is like 20-30 lightyears. So when I say SoG forces won't be able to help, I do mean it... unless they are involve in some counter-counter-attack to TRY to retake the systems, few days afterwards.

If a Spartan Strike Fleet is nearby in the sector, may take 5 to 20 hours to reach the systems being attacked. As for a Drone fleet, they won't be able to arrive in time to get involve in the current battles either. Besides, second and third is expected to fall before Cyclanid does...as there will be less resistence....

LordMP-- The plot is intriguing, and I'm sure that when you have time to go back and fix up the post it'll be quite reasonable...of course, as soon as Sprayber finds out the Novans are responsible I'll have to get rid of the Novan mercenaries...

Yes, but the Novans will be able to know if the Spartans discovered that they were involved... thats for being with friends with the Data Angels, as their entire faction is one big intelligence network practically

By now, the Novans is at a indepedent world, dropping off the surviving Drones crew, resupplying and repairs...and checking their messages with the local Cyborg Comm Center.

Silance: Are the Believers really anxious to get involved? Cause I think the Spartans can arrange a little attack on Ross 128. Surely the Terrans wouldn't mind swapping colonies. It will take the two Spartan Fleets a little time to get there cause we do have to skirt PK territory. But we will be there in time to dampen the joyful celebrations on Earth. Kessel will contact you through Morgan.

Attacks from the Spartans against any other TA systems is quite expected, and the TAF is ready. The TAF as quite a lot of freedom concerning Ross 128 and Wolf 359 about defences, colonies and so on compare to Sol (since is war, TAF can finally properlly call the shots on defence without much political nonsense from some annoying members)... meaning, the system will not fall... maybe heavily bartered...but it won't be like Capella. Ross 128 is quite an heavily defended system in comparison to Capella. Only way i can seriously see the Spartans succeed in getting Ross is by sending a good portion of its military ...if they do, Pirates and maybe the Hive will take advantage of the openings

As for the Believers, only the Earth Coalition as declared war on them...not all of TA. Hopefully, the Believers will be smart enough to not make the same mistake the morganites did... Member forces don't have much of an presense in Ross and Wolf...

[Sprayber]

Ok So no more Terran systems can fall but the remaing morgan systems, oops i mean Spartan systems, can?


And the Cooperate systems are to the west of sol. (left). Ross is right, sparta is north, and morgans main colonies, pollax is south.


If the Terrans went north, they just invaded Firaxis, Barnards star and the Cadres home planet.

[Mellian]

Originally posted by Sprayber
Ok So no more Terran systems can fall but the remaing morgan systems, oops i mean Spartan systems, can?

It is only three systems, which doesn't have any bigger value then the mining potential. TA will not be on a conquering fest, geez they are simply retaliating against Morganites' aggression....and making a statement that they are not to be pushed around.

I already pretty predicted this.... TA attacks and captures three of the nearest Morganite systems, and then be open for peace while ready for any retaliation, especially from the Spartans...who will most likely try to attack either Wolf or Ross.
If there is to much ganging up and overconfidence on Chironian superiority, I will aggressively bring the Pirates to pounce on all openings, creating havoc within Morganite, Drone and Spartan systems. Kane is open for dealing with the Hive, unlike Kerensky/TAF/TA. if this arrogant perceptions is too solid, I will get the Peacekeepers involve, indirectly if there is still no Guardian or someone to play them.

If there going to be a big human war, it won't be the Terran Alliance's fault

If the Terrans went north, they just invaded Firaxis, Barnards star and the Cadres home planet.

does anyone have Barnards Star or anyone doing anything with the system? if not, whatever independent there can be the first non-sol member

-LMP

[Mr. President]

Are the Pirates Kerensky was talking to going to co-operate with him?

If there is to much ganging up and overconfidence on Chironian superiority, I will aggressively bring the Pirates to pounce on all openings, creating havoc within Morganite, Drone and Spartan systems.

Is this a threat? If it is I must register my most strenuous protests. This story is not about browbeating other writers. The Terran Alliance is one of the more powerful factions, and I can see no reason to be so defensive. If I want to be intimidated, I'll go to school.

[Sprayber]

LMP. Bernards was left independent so that anyone that wanted to could write for them.

Can you not honestly not see the position of the Spartan Federation? In your opinion do you think that the Spartans are not going to defend their ally the Morganites? The Drones are also allies with both Sparta and Morgan. As for the Believers. They were declared war upon.

1. Sparta's ally Morgan was attacked by InEN
2. Morgan was attacked again by InEn at a peace conference
3. Morgan demanded that the Terrans do something.
4. Terrans ignored all talk on the matter.
5 Spara warned EC and Terran alliance to settle dispute before war
6. Morgan attacked InEn on Callisto
7. Then the Terrans woke up from their nap
8. Sparta again warned EC and TA to settle dispute
9 Terrans expelled Morgan from Callisto
10. Morgan attacked Capella
11. Terrans declared war on Morgan
12. Sparta yet again asks for a settlement from both EC and TA
13. Terrans invade Cooperate Sector
14. Sparta convinces Morgan to cede Cooperate Sector
15. Terrans currently still are attacking Spartan territory now.


Did I forget anything? This is What Kessel sees when he runs the situation down. This is what he goes by. So are you saying that Sparta should abandon their ally and allow the Terrans to become a large superpower?

The Pks have become a power by actually coloninzing planets without conquest. What prevents the TA from doing the same. as I look at the map there seems plenty of room. Hell even the Spartans have only taken two planets by force since they left Chiron and they gave one back.

Now that I think about it. when the map was being done. Terrans only claimed Sol and Capella. I gave them Wolf and Ross because I thought they might want a little room to breath. Maybe I was too generous.

[Frankychan]

Hello, I'm here.....

I just got off of work and couldn't go on the 'net cause it was freekin' busy.

History Guy- I'm cooking up two different posts, one which shows what happened to Bippol after the Morganites returned fire on him. The second one is Yang's view. I wouldn't mind writing the fall of Samnos (space battle). But would it be alright if we had maybe two more space engagements first?
The ground fighting would be mopping up but Hive will take lots of casualties.

Sprayber-Second post will have Yang opening up comm-channel with Sparta. Is this ok? If it is ok, I would think Kessel would pass the comm-channel to Nwabudike.

K? The drafts are ready and I'm just waiting for the ok or refusal on your guys parts. Any idea's would be welcomed (then ignored ) (just kidding!)

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by frankychan
Hello, I'm here.....

I just got off of work and couldn't go on the 'net cause it was freekin' busy.

History Guy- I'm cooking up two different posts, one which shows what happened to Bippol after the Morganites returned fire on him. The second one is Yang's view. I wouldn't mind writing the fall of Samnos (space battle). But would it be alright if we had maybe two more space engagements first?
The ground fighting would be mopping up but Hive will take lots of casualties.

Sprayber-Second post will have Yang opening up comm-channel with Sparta. Is this ok? If it is ok, I would think Kessel would pass the comm-channel to Nwabudike.

K? The drafts are ready and I'm just waiting for the ok or refusal on your guys parts. Any idea's would be welcomed (then ignored ) (just kidding!)

If you look at my last post, Kessel has contacted you. If you have something in mind I can edit it out and wait. I always look forward to your ideas. Actually, im surprised that Lord Ian hasn't given Morgan the hIves comm number

[Silence]

Ok I'll just send the forces on their way with a dreadnought to back them up to see about how the system is when they finally get there.

[History Guy]

Pardon me, but the situation is confused. Once Samnos and Naxos fall, TA will be attacking Spartan property, and if that goes, the Spartans will demand it's return. And, if peace comes, don't expect Morgan to hand back Capella for nothing.

LMP-- I was hoping you could fix up the other post before you did another one...

Franky has expressed a wish to be allowed to take over Samnos in a post, should we not allow him to at least get into the action? I mean after all he's been through now, with the Hive fleet getting "cut up badly", I think he should at least be able to do something else than just sit around in space listening to the demands of the prideful and corrupt Terran Alliance.

BTW, if the Novans do betray us, Morgan and Mr. Ku will make them regret it...

I must agree with Mr. President.

And hey, by the way, Morgan may well colonize peacefully to make up for lost territory. Morgan would like to own an empire, or a monopoly, no doubt...

The Believers: Silence, we look forward to your prescense in the Co-operate Sector. Now, the mistake with the Believers that has been made was declaring war on them. The Terran aggression against them is pointless. It'd be like Kessel declaring war on them because a group of Believer mercenaries is stationed in Hive territory! The Believers aren't going to concede anything to the Terrans. I hope Tremaine and Kerensky realize that.

Franky-- Post away...then I'll do my posts!

[Mellian]

no time to reply some posts now, but here is some quick replies:

-No, it is not a threat, it is something pirates would do. There would be openings and opportunities for the Pirates to take advantage of if the Spartans, Drones and so on focus on TA during a war.

-EARTH COALITION DECLARED WAR!!!!!!!!! NOT TERRAN ALLIANCE!!!!!! Kerensky would condemn EC

[History Guy]

OK, another post tackled...not quite though, righter Cyber?

Don't worry, I'll do a special post on the trading on Quantum Shadow for you tomorrow or so!

As for the plot at the resort, it may seem a little odd so far, well that's because it is.

But don't worry! It'll get good soon!