Beyond Alpha Centauri::: Discussion Thread 3

[Sprayber]

I hope that none of my comments have cause you to feel this way. I give you a hard time about the TA but it's not because I personally dislike them. I'm just getting into character as Kessel. I appreciate all that you do for the story in keeping some of the Star Trekish aspects of it out. I really do. If any of my comments has brought this one, then I am sorry.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by GeneralTacticus


For the record, the guy's name is Lysander, not Leonidas NO-ONE in the Cadre is ever called that except the leader, and right now even the leader isn't called that). Anyway, I'm planning on having Lysander attempt a coup and the result being civil war. We can discuss who should win if you want.

Sorry. I got this story and one of my earlier one mixed up


A Cadre civil war would be an interesting twist to the story and I'm interested to talk about it. I can say that the Spartans would be very wary to get involved but wouldn't want Lysander to win since he is supported by Yang. But I assume that any overt help by the Spartans may very well hurt Menelaus more than it would help. It might be interesting for the Spartans to enforce some kind of blockage to try and keep supplies from reaching Lysander. That would be done quietly with as little spotlight as possible. Maybe have a long struggle with with Lysander nearly winning and triggering the Spartans to begin the process of sending in forces only to be asked by Menelaus to hold of saying that he is certain that he will prevail. just ideas of course.

[Mr. President]

Multi-author stories are inherently inefficient. In some ways man is a pack animal, but in other ways he is a lone wolf. Perhaps in fact he is both, at different times and settings.

Cadre civil war could be interesting. The Republic would stick with Sparta's line (unless Menelaus manages to wring some major deals out of Adams, hint hint preview preview). With GHE engagement as well you could be looking at the flashpoint for something big and nasty.

[Mr. President]

Hey History and Mr. Sprayber, I just read the newest story posts (Lord only knows how I missed them before)! All I can say is WOW! Spectacular!

[Kassiopeia]

If this story composition (note, I regard this as a story, not a game) would be 'perfect', we would PM each other frequently and discuss matters over and over again before posting.
That would mean that the BAC would be on page one at this moment...

[Mellian]

grrrr, I complain and vent, and then simply decided to skip page 5 and read the important interfaction issues and so on. Just when i have great ideas regain my confident in the story and about to add something to it finally last night, bloody forum crashes just when positivity is about to happen!!! darnit, apolyton sure likes to get me hooked, yet keep me miserable

Anyway, I suggest people DON'T anything to the Samnos battle until i can get to it tonite, as i don't trust kass with the TAF

I like how he plays Stormhill, but he seems to friendly with the Coalition

Kerensky will personally send messages to various factions, skipping the Council and Stormhill, which he can later use the charter as an excuse, that the TAF is leading the war and some people/member(s) are becoming liabilities to the war effort.

There is more then the TAF and EC ships in the System...which i realize we are ignoring the other two which their attacks will happen about the same time..... Mars, Venus and Scion ships are there too. SO DON't IGNORE THEM.. and they are not cannon fodder.

Last, TAF will not tolerate the Hive presense, especially if they dare try take the colony for themselves. meaning, Hive ships will be allowed to continue the space battle, but TAF will warn them not to land any troops on the colony, else the TAF will fire upon them. Hey, i did say from the start that the three systems will be captured under the TA banner, nowhere did i said the hive.

-LMP

[History Guy]

Sprayber-- Goooood post! Thanks for revealing the "grand master plan"...soon we'll put it into action...bwahahahahahahaha! As for doing the story like Spartan Chronicles, no, I don't think that'd be enjoyable. I am glad you liked how BAC turned out! I like it...

Anyway, I think we can squeeze you into the battle sequences at Naxos, perhaps (assuming, after our plan is hatched TA can even make it to Naxos). It won't clog up anything. By the way, 1st Corps has been moved from Samnos and Naxos to Pollux already.

OK, LordMP-- I am soooo delighted that you utterly hated my story posts. Heck, yeah it's just real wonderful to me...warm inside all the sudden...HEY! WAIT! WHAT AM I SAYING???? Sorry...Anyway, I apologize if my posts were not enjoyed. The guys who the Company A, 8th Vol. Regiment blasted had been mentioned before as being surrounded by a whole brigade of men. These guys had just cut themselves out of a trap, and were bloody exhausted, with little organization left. They'd been fighting all day non-stop.

And hey! I never watch Star Trek anyway, so I trust I haven't done anything to that effect. The Recon Rover Episode was simply made to be enjoyed and to poke some fun at shows like Star Trek.

Frankly, Kassiopeia is bloody right!

Thanks Mr. President! I am gratified!

[Silence]

Well as how the TAF has been in my post they have normally inflicted the correct amount of damage on my side. I tried not to make it unbalanced during the two battleposts that I had.

[Mr. President]

The Enterprise battle group will stage to the Morgan Interstellar homeworld in the post after my next one. (My next one will end with President Adams being called away from the Menelaus negotiations for an important message from Joint (Morgan-Spartan-Drone) Co-Ordination.)

As for the story, I don't really feel that it's all that unbalanced. Certainly there have been problems, but it flows very well as is. Like they say, if it ain't broke . . .

edit: Actually, there is something else I would like to talk about, but it doesn't really have a lot to do with the actual story at the moment. I read over in the Datalinks area that much research is being put into war walkers, in the tradition of Mechwarrior.

I was wondering how effective a war walker would actually be in 28th century warfare. It would be a tall order to make them efficient and stable, particularly the humanoid ones. Insectoid and arachnid walking configurations are much more stable than bipedal ones. You'd worry about them being tripped up like the AT-ATs in The Empire Strikes Back. Plus you'd have to worry about the speed of their motion. Wheeled (rover), tracked (tank), or aerofoil (hovertank) vehicles move much, much faster than most things can walk, and the walkers would also be extremely vulnerable to fast aerial machines like needlejets and gravships, as well as presenting a large target for missiles. Any thoughts?

[Silence]

Actually War Walkers and battlemechs are horribly inneficent designs compared to what a tank can do. They really are walking big targets compare to the smaller and faster tanks.

And History Guy would you mind if I had the SoG fleet at Capella send a taskforce to help out defend your colonies?

Also since the TAF declared war on the Believers, perhaps the forces that are not fighting under the SoG flag and not holding off the HOGs could form another taskforce and help fight in the war.

[Frankychan]

If I could just say something...

Well...

At the birth of BAC, Sprayber (a.k.a. Thread-God) did say that this was to be a collaborative effort on each author's part.
Needless to say, when there are numerous individuals with their own opinion on how things should be handled, there will be conflict. An example is the U.S.A.

Each state has their own opinion on how things should be handled and sometimes things "go-against-the-grain" so to speak. But the amalgamated effort is something quite unique.

To address the topic of things "Not Going a Certain Way",

Myself, I am a very open person. Therefore, if someone has an idea about the Hive I would be glad to collaborate with them on it...even if it is detrimental toward the Hive. So, if an author wants to kill of a Hive citizen or whatever, I will listen to the opposing authors reason. If the reason is valid, then I would give the go ahead.

IIRC, I have collaborated with many authors and thank each one of them. I must admit that they did allow me a LOT of lee-way for my idea's and thank each of them. For those authors that I have not had much contact with, I apologize but right now the direction I am taking the Hive plot does not involve those govt's right now.

Lastly,

I have also seen things that I have not thought were to my liking, but in retrospect I believe that it makes BAC that more interesting to participate in. When something is unpredictable it possesses wonder and incites curiosity to see what will happen next. For instance, I was thinking the Hive would take control over Samnos-but other authors want Samnos for themselves. Does it throw a wrench in my plans?....Yes. Am I upset that I didn't get things my way?...No, because so far I have noticed that when something in BAC occurs not according to my plan, I can adjust the Hive plot without too much effort.

I believe that the main rules of BAC are:

1. Collaborate with the other authors

2. Remain consistent with what already posted

3. Think realistically

4. Be Fair

5. Enjoy participating in BAC!

Well, that's my shtick. Enough boring stuff, time to discuss recent events...

[Frankychan]

I like the posts dealing with Samnos
(Morgans and Spartans= )

As for the Hive command ship,

Thanks for not killing him! I'm making refinements on the Hive's view of the Morgan/Spartan attack on the People's Glory as we speak. So readers will see what it looks like from Bippol's P.O.V.

K, gonna go read the story thread now...I'll be back.

BTW, I'm having a brainstorm....


SUPPORT LYSANDER!!!!
DOWN WITH MENELAUS!!!

[Frankychan]

frankychan has just read the Spartan post and frankychan is surprised!

Does Nwabudike actually believe that after this crisis Kessel would give up all of Morgan Interstellar's wealth?! It sounds like Kessel is the only tyrant around here, not Yang!


Watch out Morgan! You'd have better luck siding with Yang!

[History Guy]

Sounds ok to me, Silence and Mr. President.

Franky-- Hope I haven't disappointed in any way!

Thanks Franky. I didn't have the heart to blow up Bippol. Heck, I even liked Brackus better than Bippol, but hey, if you want him to live, I'll let him live...

Yang + Morgan? What????!!! After what you guys have just done to us? The CEO simply says:

Don't worry, Morgan knows Kessel will not hold onto the co-operate sector longer then expected, because if he betrays Morgan it will not look good to his other allies. Besides, Morgan was a big help when fighting Yang on Chiron...

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Mr. President
I was wondering how effective a war walker would actually be in 28th century warfare. It would be a tall order to make them efficient and stable, particularly the humanoid ones. Insectoid and arachnid walking configurations are much more stable than bipedal ones. You'd worry about them being tripped up like the AT-ATs in The Empire Strikes Back. Plus you'd have to worry about the speed of their motion. Wheeled (rover), tracked (tank), or aerofoil (hovertank) vehicles move much, much faster than most things can walk, and the walkers would also be extremely vulnerable to fast aerial machines like needlejets and gravships, as well as presenting a large target for missiles. Any thoughts?

Sparta has been involved in small scale contruction of Mechs in a way for years for small scale riot control. I'm looking at other smaller veichles.

http://www.geocities.com/kessel74/GroundRiot.html