Beyond Alpha Centauri::: Discussion Thread 3

[GeneralTacticus]

Quite frankly, why are we arguing over who attacked who first and why? Which side is in the wrong depends on which side you ask (i.e. it's always the other side), and the only way it matters is the way people think of the two sides. So, TA and TAF will believe Morgan is the aggressor, and the Spartans, Morganites etc will consider TAF the aggressor. No-one is going to change their minds about this, so don't bother arguing over it.

Mellian: Can you actually name one weakness in the TAF that you agree they have? So far I can't remember any...

[Mellian]

Why exactly has the TA just all of a sudden become dominate when at the first it seemed little more than a loose union.

have I not explained that a few times already? TA was the sleeping giant... morganites got into a silly war instigated by InEn, which they responded with military action way to quick which started to make TA really worried by the chironians. Then, the morganites took Capella... and now, TA is in war mode lead by the TAF which is lead by Kerensky. After seeing the problems, the Council easily see the need to make some things tighter despite Coalition and InEn complaints...and InEn as been put down by the council and will be absorbed by the TAF.

And why is the EC so humbled into accepting it when they clearly are a dominate part of the TA.

They are the biggest member, but doesn't mean they run TA... sure they may of had quite some influence, but slowly started to get countered by the TAF, the police and defenders of TA you can say, which slowly and quietly grew in military strength over the years, becoming a dominate military force within TA, not controlled by any members. When the problems and hostilies started, Coalition influence started to plummet and TAF gains in power politicly...and now leads the war, which they were chartered to do when there is a war involving all of TA. Now, after the InEn instigation of war, the union is becoming more tighter..... which does make sense. I do agree things went a bit to fast, but not my fault... and not interested in seeing TA going behind either, pushed around and loose territory...which they already have few of.

Why does the University seem so eager to drop a very advantagous partnership with Morgan for the chance to buddy up to Yang who they have had no contact with for hundreds of years.

wonder about that too

I'm just reminded of the fate of the Chiron Chroncles. This was always meant to be a way to be able to expand on the stories, when in CC there was only so much that you could do. Again these are just thoughts of mine.

BAC as more room to play with....but some people are starting to take advantage of it to much and the pace of the game way to fast.

-LMP

[Kassiopeia]

Actually, the Coalition won't be so subduing in the future - they are willing to hook up with Yang, much to the dispisement of the Alliance - this will cause friction, that will erupt in the near future.

[Mellian]

Originally posted by Sprayber
I would like to address the issue of superpowers. Exactly what do you mean when you say Superpower?

right now, the super powers i see if the Drone Republic, Morganite Interstellar, Spartan Federation, Greater Hive Empire and the Peacekeepers because they all have quite an influence and impact in Human space diplomaticly, politicly, military, intelligence, and so on....

Want to see TA to start having a impact in human space.... what is so wrong with that?

-LMP

[Kassiopeia]

What's wrong with this picture (no, this is not something to scare you up) - It appears that 'Poly is definitely acting up on me...

http://personal.phpoint.net/nortti/history.jpg

[Mellian]

Originally posted by kassiopeia


But... they are in a state of war, right? It would be crazy if they wouldn't response in some way - they just can't go around shooting at people, now can they?

Stop writing so much, I don't have the time to read...

well, i am staying out late to keep up with the discussion thread

anyway, sure they can, they are evasive and devious pirates Chironians give up trying to seriously try to put down the pirates, or try to get a long lasting treaties and so on....been state of war as general way of life...they ARE pirates. Pirate Faction is too fragmented and lack a central Gov...yet still mostly stick together TA will simply learn. besides, was thinking to have Kane Revolution happen and have them help against the morganites and other factions as one big distraction.

-LMP

[Mellian]

Originally posted by kassiopeia
Mellian:

Sorry, i was unaware of how big the TAF would be in in the battle - The Coalition Battle Squadron will be sufficient, right? Helping in taking out the Orbitals, I would presume. The Terran marines can do the groundwork...
But, who'll write about that?

I would if i can get around to it.

-LMP

[Kassiopeia]

Originally posted by Mellian


I would if i can get around to it.

-LMP

Goodgoodgood.

[Mellian]

Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
Quite frankly, why are we arguing over who attacked who first and why? Which side is in the wrong depends on which side you ask (i.e. it's always the other side), and the only way it matters is the way people think of the two sides. So, TA and TAF will believe Morgan is the aggressor, and the Spartans, Morganites etc will consider TAF the aggressor. No-one is going to change their minds about this, so don't bother arguing over it.

not believe, they KNOW. the MI vs TA war started because of MI taking Capella, which had nothing to do with the InEn incident. As far as TA is concern, the Morganites took Capella because TA naturally tried to defend Callisto and retook the moon.
SO, not into the idea of having all of the CHironians vs Terrans over a TA retaliation fairly against the morganites for attacking them.

Mellian: Can you actually name one weakness in the TAF that you agree they have? So far I can't remember any...

They depend on the TA as they are solely a military organization, not really a seperate faction. seriously don't have much political power within TA or in the Council, and the powers are giving by the Council and their Charter. They have to deal with the internal problems of TA.... technologicly inferior to the Chironians and so on. they are heavily ignored by players and their factions

-LMP

[Mellian]

Originally posted by kassiopeia
Actually, the Coalition won't be so subduing in the future - they are willing to hook up with Yang, much to the dispisement of the Alliance - this will cause friction, that will erupt in the near future.

like it was planned...while hoping the SK don't get into that habit as well.

-LMP

[Kassiopeia]

Originally posted by Mellian


like it was planned...while hoping the SK don't get into that habit as well.

-LMP

SK?

[GeneralTacticus]

not believe, they KNOW. the MI vs TA war started because of MI taking Capella, which had nothing to do with the InEn incident. As far as TA is concern, the Morganites took Capella because TA naturally tried to defend Callisto and retook the moon.

The point I'm trying to make is that while the TA may 'know' that Morgan is the aggressor, the other factions may see it differently.

SO, not into the idea of having all of the CHironians vs Terrans over a TA retaliation fairly against the morganites for attacking them.

I doubt the other Chironian factions would want to get involved if the TA just confines itself to taking a few Morganite systems and then making peace, but if they try to keep conquering, the others may not like that.

[Cybergod]

Originally posted by kassiopeia
SK?

The Saturn Kingdom you Earther!

Mellian I am unsure about our future in the TA if they continue this war with Morganities and their allies. GIVE PEACE A CHANCE!

History I'll write up the the story with Quantum Shadow up to the point their ship docks with your "diplomatic ship". OK?

Mellian, the greep faces have dropped in population but still like 10 fr1gg1n' pages after pages after pages...

--Nikola

[Frankychan]

The Hive rules!!!


Cheee Heee!!!!!!


Im drunk right now so ....my bad!

[History Guy]

Thanks General Tacitus.

I myself grow tired of this incessant gibbering and yippity-yacking! If we keep jawing like this we'll never actually get any work done! For someone who has no time to write actual posts for BAC, Mellian, you sure do write a lot of other stuff...

Cyber-- Sounds OK to me.

As for peace, don't worry, as soon as Samnos falls, we'll see some peace coming alright, if the plan Sprayber and I have cooked up works...

Kass, Mellian, and Franky reading that we have a plan: