Beyond Alpha Centauri::: Discussion Thread 3

[Frankychan]

Megalomania at it's apex...

I agree with Sprayber,

It does seem like everyone is "choosing sides" in the war. Sovereign has already discussed with me his viewpoint and I support it.

Just to make it clear, the galaxy is huge-mongous. Just because the Hive Empire and the Spartan Federation have totally opposing views does not mean that authors must take a side. In fact, neutral governments would make the story more realistic!
But for myself, it seems like the Hive and Sparta are the two major conflicts that will arise shortly. By "major" I mean galaxy-spanning conflict...but to respect Spray, I'll postpone our little "disagreement".

History-I don't think you stole the "Recon Rick" story! I think you've encorporated aspects of the game quite nicely. I also have been trying to insert aspects of the game as well..I.E.)Thought Control and my message to Sovereign (I now style myself...blah,blah,blah). Good job! I agree that letting readers have a glimpse of our societies lifestyle would be a refreshing change.

Sovereign-Let's discuss your ships further.....

To everyone, keep up da good work! And sorry for my little "writers bloc" I experienced as of late!

[Lonestar]

Frankychan

"One bamboo pole by itself is strong but can be broken. Hundreds tied together, however, are unbreakable. Like the hundreds tied together, that is the power of the Human Hive."

-Chairman Yang

What rhetorical nonsense!

[Sprayber]

This will probably be my last post till April.

Franky. Do you think that all those Hive warships just might be noticed so close to Spartan borders? And don't be surprised to find out that the Sparta had the foresight to send undercover agents to the Cadre. I mean if we have people on Calisto

[Mellian]

LMP, what should we do about Gaians and Peacekeepers? There aren't any writers for them right now, and it will only get more complicated for them as we weave more webs of plots, battles, relations, etc. I know you guys gave me a chance to jump in to play the University and I really appreciate it. I don't mind other people jumping in, but I'm trying to put things in perpsective... Remember how hard it was for me to get started? Maybe the new writers wouldn't be as patient or eager as I to hammer out stuff. Just my two cents on this, thats all.

Don't worry about them, just try not to get them involved thought. The Peacekeepers is one of the biggest powers in Human Space, yet surprisingly quiet and not intefering in the past decade. They are keeping to themselves, but they watching what is going on outside of PK space... besides, don't think other factions will be interested in getting them on their backs again, lol As for the Gaians, they are generally quiet and keep to themselves. As long as you leave them alone, then won't cause trouble.

-LMP

[Mellian]

You are representing the TA as some invincible force that is ready to battle anyone it likes and that if anyone goes against its will, their resistance will be crushed. Is this the way governments or organisations with vast proportions such as this are meant to work in the future you prophesise? Anyways, we fought for independence from some outsider force who will command us what to do. We now see that an utopian TA is just an illusion and will look forward to slipping out of the alliance once our defences and infrastructure is repaired.

Do realize that TA will be in war mode, and makes quite some sense for them to b cautious. Once peace time happens again, the members can have whatever relations... which some minor restrictions to prevent crazy members like InEn to get themselves in war and drag TA into it It is not the will of just one, but the will of different members. Slipping out of the Alliance will make it harder o Titan as well, since they are located in the Home system of TA!!! I am sure other factions wouldn't allow independents running around doing their own thing within their Territory, which can conflict. TAF won't be policing, just keeping an eye just because of Titan's relations to the Morganites and they just joined the Alliance as well. TAF presense in the Saturn area is for Defence, not to restrict Titan... as it is War!!! Sure, depends on ones views...but Maria should must realize

So yes Maria does consider this "alliance" just an object to use to stop Earthers attemping to retake Titan and Rhea plus because of the bigger trade income from the rest of the members. But really Maria despises anything even remotelly connected to Earth and it's domination throughout the Sol system. Now, just because she has similar plans for her little kingdom...

TA HQ and the Council is located on Earth, but doesn't mean TA is runned by Earth If Titan as a problem, they could always petition to move the HQ elsewhere....and doubt it will succeed, especially if it suggests to have the HQ on Titan What i mean by being tighter is, TA in general won't allow members to stupidly squabble among themselves when their is outside threats. TA was created because of the Chironians presense and growth throughout the stars after all And i am sure Titan will side with the TAF when the TAF-EC sparks, no? ;p


-LMP

[Mellian]

If the TA officially declares war on Morgan, then the Spartans will declare war and quickly mount action against the TA. Most likely they would move against outlaying Terran assets. Wouldn't directly Sol right off the bat.

Which it is to be expected.... but realize, TA is declaring war in retaliation, same thing the Spartans would do in their place TA won't lose any systems to the Spartans, as there is big enough force defending Ross and Wolf 359 and reinforcements could easily be sent. Another thing, TA won't officially declare war until the Spartans does attack a TA system That way, the Spartans will be the Aggressors, not TA... which will discourage any thought of seperating from TA. TAF will be fighting in various fronts and forms you know. I just like when people has completly, almost different views from mines on how i see TA TA isn't tyranical

Sparta will support any and all organizations seeking to break from the TA. And will in fact encourage it. (Terrans are not invulrable to this. )

I know that, but it will be hard. TA will counter any foreign propaganda by saying the truth and stating valid facts. Along with the definition of Propaganda and make people aware what it is, and that TA won't bother wasting resources on their own people and members. Of course, doesn't stop the members themselves to do propaganda on their own people TA as to many benifits and the members won't last long by themselves among the bigger factions in Human Space. I am just saying...
TAF will also be spy hunting as well during the war...which they are aware of many, most of them not sure where they are from, but know they are spies not of Sol TA

One suggestion to all. There seems to be a push to create grand alliances. But for most factions, it doesn't have to be a matter of directly choosing sides. The Spartans have put themselves in a position that they absolutly defend the Morganites and the Drones. This should be common knowledge and your leaders should be thinking about this. For factions like the University, Believers and independt factions this course of action is very risky. I understand that it may be more exciting to be in a war with someone. But it isn't neccessary. The US isn't in an official war at the moment, but there are plenty of "exciting" (really poor words i know) things going on.

Yes, just like how US can bring down a country by force without declaring war on them Political and DIplomatic games...which TA willbe using a lot themselves. TA is alliance of various factions located in the same system, each only a fraction from the big star spanning Chiron Factions, even for the smaller ones like University, Believers and Gaians. Anyway, will be overlly silly to have big Alliance blocs... doesn't make sense. Each player/faction as their own views and each have ideas as to what should happen, and tries to achieve, only to end up being changed due to other players actions..... There is no script people, the story is made up as we go along. lately, I have stated what TA will be doing in the short term and discussing ideas with kass about whats will happen internally, which shouldn't bother others to much.... pretty much on kass, cyber and I playing the terran factions and TA.... yes cyber, since your faction is under TA, you do have input on what will happen with TA

-LMP

[History Guy]

Um, Lord MP, could you please check your PMs?

[Mellian]

As for things going on by fast, I know and slightly annoying.... things could happen in weeks, but all in a few days? impossible if you take the max FTL speeds seriously, and their where you can jump in limits. Surprising no ship FTL into another ship or a planet/moon/whatever by now, FTL in and out of the Jupiter area like that or in other cases. I say we get into 2701 now.

I expect big space battles to last more then a few hours too people unless your fighting a Fraal ship.

-LMP

[Mellian]

Originally posted by History Guy
Um, Lord MP, could you please check your PMs?

sure, after i finish reading and replying here


-LMP

[Kassiopeia]

Originally posted by History Guy
Kass-- Good post. I was working on a new post attempting to capture the sort of stunned reaction after war that soldiers feel, but I think you did it very well. I loved seeing the two back. I like sticking recurring minor characters into the story periodically as you have probably noticed.

Thanks. I myself enjoyed your little "Recon Rover Rick" installment.
It'll be a most adventorous journey for our two friends.

[History Guy]

Franky-- Liked your last post, especially the bit about Kang's memories...but I have a question composed of a single word...

Bloodrats??

I want one!!

Kass-- Thanks. I must confess I look forward to the further adventures of a certain two-some.

[Kassiopeia]

Originally posted by History Guy
Kass-- Thanks. I must confess I look forward to the further adventures of a certain two-some.

Well see. There might be delays, you see -
*shakes involuntarily*
I just asked a classmate of mine, a very striking and intelligent female being, out. Well, via email, but still...

[Frankychan]

Originally posted by Sprayber
This will probably be my last post till April.

Franky. Do you think that all those Hive warships just might be noticed so close to Spartan borders? And don't be surprised to find out that the Sparta had the foresight to send undercover agents to the Cadre. I mean if we have people on Calisto

Have a good one Sprayber

As for our ships...we already have the Hive Second Fleet stationed just inside Hive space...check out my earlier posts. I haven't been able to post much about Admiral Brakus because of all the events going on elsewhere.

The fleet we are assembling is deep within Hive space...so no one will be able to see what we are doing...but the Spartans probably would be able to detect our Second Fleet.

Lonestar- you don't like my metaphor? I had to make that one up by myself...and I think it resembles the Hive well.

History- Thanks...just trying to give my main characters a little more substance. *scratches chin*hmmm, maybe I will make a Hive propaganda program...

Oh before I forget Lonestar- we really should discuss future events between our two governments.

Kass- GO GET 'EM! Yeehaw!

[Kassiopeia]

Originally posted by frankychan
Kass- GO GET 'EM! Yeehaw!

Yeah. No sleep for me tonight, though.

[Mr. President]

Another day, another tongue-in-cheek location entry for me (I'd be surprised if anyone here knows where Jamuraa is or that it actually has many princes), but little writing finished. I added a paragraph to my (unrelated to Apolyton) novel embryo, does that count?

The purpose of this otherwise irrelevant post is to say that I may not be posting stories for a little while since school has started and all is chaos. So until then you can all dream of things to come (yeah right!).